The Brew Cabin

Posted: **Tue May 20, 2014 11:30 pm**

the craic there is fierce all the old boys round me are 80 plus
most are ex alkies ,gives them somthing to do other than drink i reckon
LLL

Posted: **Wed May 21, 2014 6:55 am**

Going back to the 110volt nonsense, one guy who was working on a big project was saying his site have done away with it as it was causing more problems. People tripping over the transformers, or hurting their back lifting them, besides which you still need 240 to run the 110, so the risk is not really reduced. They just make sure they have circuit breakers everywhere.

Posted: **Wed May 21, 2014 7:12 am**

Dan I hear you on this
but its the law on certain sites and we have to use 110v plant

I was always told its safer but have had a belt off 110 and 240 and they both hurt

LLL

Posted: **Wed May 21, 2014 8:34 am**

110v wont kill you, It's the amps going through YOU which are dangerous. voltage is a measure of how hard they get pushed through you. 110V system is actually arranged so that only 55V is available to push amps through you into the earth. This means that it's likely to only push about a 4th of the amps as 230V.

Second is that the 110v feeds are through an isolating transformer. This means that you would have to simultaneously touch both the live and neutral to draw a current. If you touched between live and earth, you will not be able to draw a current through the transformer.

so 4th the amps of a 240v ill take that any day over a 240v whack

it aint nonse, we have 10kva 110v box thats runs of 415 three phase has 6 16amp outlets and 2 x 32 amp outlets for the bigger stuff

plus the connections are much tougher and better if used outside, plus yellow cable over black enables better trip reduction.

although if youve done your health and safety training you'll know that cables should be run high up and over doorways not on the ground,

just done two health and safety exams and working my way through nebosh training at mo got the 700 page book the other day

be a fun holiday read.

Edited By GB_Groundworks on 1400657993

Posted: **Wed May 21, 2014 6:33 pm**

horses for courses. Different sites different rules.
Someone told me portable site toilets are law, yet i cannot find anyone who will actually enforce this!

Posted: **Wed May 21, 2014 7:14 pm**

your average jobbing builder/plumber working in domestic jobs, will use 240v for ease of use,
i have 110v charger for my hilti cordless its a pain to bring 110v box home to charge,same as using it at domestic needing to carry 110v box about but each to his own i guess MSH

Posted: **Wed May 21, 2014 8:40 pm**

My Mrs uses a 240 hair dryer in the bathroom. IMHO that is more dangerous than a 240 breaker.

Posted: **Wed May 21, 2014 8:45 pm**

dig dug dan wrote:horses for courses. Different sites different rules.
Someone told me portable site toilets are law, yet i cannot find anyone who will actually enforce this!

They're even law in the military :laugh:

Nothing like a big row of portable sh*tters to give away your location to the enemy.

Posted: **Wed May 21, 2014 8:50 pm**

health and safety on jobs with 5 or more employees you need welfare facilities comprising toilet, hot water for washing, a warm dry place with chairs with backs for ppl to get a break and hot water for drinks and a place to warm food.

Posted: **Wed May 21, 2014 9:17 pm**

That's one thing I miss about commercial work. Having a toilet. I hate going going in a customers house.

Posted: **Wed May 21, 2014 9:47 pm**

I reckon as said its horses for courses

apart from 5 years on subby sites with canteens,drying rooms,toilets ,some even with showers and lockers most of my career has been spent on domestic or small commercial stuff

I do enforce PPE for anyone working on our jobs no matter how long they have been doing it that way

I dunno about you fellas but I am that used to not going to the toilet at work I rarely if ever need to,maybe once a week for a slash and never for a number 2

when we have had site loos it seems to me an open day for lads to disappear with the paper for half an hour

my first ever job when i left school was in electronics and we were taught
volts jolt ,current kills
its how you find out if you have a dodgy ticker

the Titan looks a handy bit of kit for Â£120 if it did 3 jobs its paid for
LLL

Posted: **Wed May 21, 2014 11:11 pm**

a mate of mine does insurance work and he has purchased his own welfare unit as every contract he does has to have one

they can transport men safely, first aid box, table and chairs for dining, a microwave, cleaning facilities and hand washing and toilet facilities

Welfare unit

ADDED - I only saw the post on page one and did not see that Giles had already posted about the welfare unit

Posted: **Thu May 22, 2014 3:37 pm**

lutonlagerlout wrote:I dunno about you fellas but I am that used to not going to the toilet at work I rarely if ever need to,maybe once a week for a slash and never for a number 2

Crikey Luton how do you manage with one pee a week, don't you get cups of tea. I'm bloody useless especially in winter when it's cold.

We use a dedicated bucket with a splash of bleach in it and a hidden corner, we do clear this with the customer first. There's 3 of us so at least 3 trips to the loo and even after removing boots there's usually some crud of some sort stuck to your clothes waiting to drop on their carpets.
Number 2's, if really necessary, there's usually a tesco's nearby.

Posted: **Thu May 22, 2014 4:20 pm**

i usually last a day at work, despite tea drinking. If you drink lots of alcohol, it weakens the bladder so you have to go more. (teetotal me so has its advantages)
Work mates cannot last more than a couple of hours and have to go away to find a wooded area somewhere

Posted: **Thu May 22, 2014 4:59 pm**

lemoncurd dunno mate
paul has to go 4-5 times a day and he rarely drinks beer

I think it was drummed into me as a young lad that if the subby turned up and you weren't laying you would be down the road

so like a lot of things you just get used to it

we did a HSE course and the guy told us on small works a van is acceptable for eating etc as hard to justify a canteen for 2-3 blokes
LLL

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