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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:24 pm
by dig dug dan
got a grab on the k008 (see here) http://www.dcgardens.co.uk/stumpremoval.htm

best tool on it. the number of times it gets used. used it today to lift two brick built gate piers on the truck for crushing. so heavy it tips the digger, but the grab coped well!

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:25 pm
by dig dug dan
try digbits. They were the best price and its a really well made piece of kit. bear in mind you will have to weld a bracket on to the dipper arm.

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:34 pm
by msh paving
i've just paid £700 for a unused second hand genuine bobcat grapple they retail about £1500-1600,due to the large ram that works the thumb so it can be used to grip any item, once i fit it ill put some piccys :)

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:43 pm
by GB_Groundworks
we have a few dig bits buckets for our 13 tonner, pulled a stump out the other day was a big 70 foot spruce tree. used 600mm bucket on 13 ton machine took some getting out.

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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:53 am
by dig dug dan
there is something hugely satisfying about digging out a tree stump. Next problem, what to do with the stump? (dig a hole and bury it?)

've just paid £700 for a unused second hand genuine bobcat grapple they retail about £1500-1600,due to the large ram that works the thumb so it can be used to grip any item, once i fit it ill put some piccys :)


to be honest, i found the grip talon better for my needs. it has three adjustments, and i tried a bobcat one and never really found it could justify the extra expense. matter of choice and application i suppose!

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:00 am
by ambient
msh paving wrote:just bough a bobcat thumb and grapple for my 3 ton, not used it yet,iv got a hydraulic grapple for sale for 3 tonner works from the aux. hydraulics need 2 way flow to open and close :D
how much is it and why have you bought a new one and have you got a pic

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:24 pm
by msh paving
hi ambient send me a pm with your tele number and i can tell you about it

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:34 pm
by ambient
*edit to avoid spam*
use PM for private stuff :;):
LLL




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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:50 pm
by Digbits
GB_Groundworks wrote:what the off the shelf price for a 3 ton grapple? priced one for our 8 ton and was £1500 that worked of fixed leg to dipper arm and then bucket linkage to open and close


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A good selection of our 2 to 3 tonne class (KX71) attachments are shown here: http://www.digtrak.co.uk/index.php?cPath=48_54

If you're just clearing up light rubbish and brush, or stuff that's a bit loose (and you need the bucket still) then the Grip Talon is a very good way of going and is reasonably priced.

If you want to uproot tree stumps or lift and shift bigger stuff like rocks or old fridges or steel beams (a lot get used in demolition and waste transfer) then a grapple is well worth the extra investment.

Like a lot of our attachments and quick hitches, we'll only use HARDOX 450 steel for the tines, because it's extremely hard at over 400 Brinnel and is also very strong - about 1400N/mm2. (As a comparisson, even a very good 50B mild steel wwill only be around 150 Brinnell and 700N/mm2.) In the last few weeks, we've several quick hitches for customers to replace units (made by other manufacturers, using 'cheap' steel) that have worn either to the point of being dangerous or useless, at around 12 to 18 months service.

In terms of the 'which mini digger' debate, the only 'unbiased' comment I can add to waht's already been said is that the very nicest mini I've driven yet was a Kubota KX161-3 - beautiful - closely followed by a U25-3, which to be fair was on a par with the Takeuchi TB125.




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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:34 pm
by ambient
like the idea of the grip talon handy thing just been on digbits and bought one i take it this is what a lot of you call a thumb

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:11 pm
by GB_Groundworks
yeah i always called them thumbs, seem alot more popular across the pond than here.

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:31 pm
by Tommy
Anybody got any experience of using the rotating hitches that are available? Are they worth the extra £££ or just another attachment to sit in the yard?

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:53 pm
by GB_Groundworks
just reading an article on them in the march issue of Earthmovers magazine, very popular in scandinavia and seen a engcon on a 16 ton volvo rubber duck looked a very useful bit of kit for final grading and detailed work. but they are about £14k for the engcon tilt rotator with full proportional controls, and they use different shaped buckets that are more conical so a big outlay. i will finish the article and surmise.

gi

on the right job with good operators fuel and time can be saved as well as lot less repositioning of machine during work, but hitches are vulnerable to damage and they reckon it will be mainly specialist contractors who adopt them in the uk.

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:06 pm
by ambient
got my grip talon yesterday welded it on and put it out on demolition job today knocking down massive wooden garage excellent bit of kit well worth the money :D

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:54 pm
by Tommy
GB_Groundworks wrote:just reading an article on them in the march issue of Earthmovers magazine, very popular in scandinavia and seen a engcon on a 16 ton volvo rubber duck looked a very useful bit of kit for final grading and detailed work. but they are about £14k for the engcon tilt rotator with full proportional controls, and they use different shaped buckets that are more conical so a big outlay. i will finish the article and surmise.

gi

on the right job with good operators fuel and time can be saved as well as lot less repositioning of machine during work, but hitches are vulnerable to damage and they reckon it will be mainly specialist contractors who adopt them in the uk.
I read that also, that was what spurred my comment.


Interesting that the scandinavian's use a hitch on the bladev of the rubber ducks to tow trailers