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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:27 pm
by ambient
me too, everytime i hear how much somebody got for scrap i go in and get naff all towards everybody else
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:19 pm
by Dave_L
GB_Groundworks wrote:its get hard when you start factoring in things like fuel and buckets and water in the rollers etc soon adds up.
Yep, you're quite right - a full water tank on a decent sized roller can add 1/4 of a ton easily. Easy to 'forget' things like that.
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:18 pm
by flowjoe
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:29 am
by Tommy
There is a arguement going on at our yard, The tractor driver is told to run on red diesel by the contract manager, and told to run on white by our boss, the union bloke and the other tractor drivers on other contracts.
His reckoning, that he does more road miles than actual work (Massey and gang mowers) that he should be running on white
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:57 pm
by dig dug dan
A tractor hire firm near my uncle has to run their tractors on white diesel when they deliver the machines, but red when they are actually being hired. It's a nonsense
I believe it is a grey area that needs clairfying as who is right and wrong?
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:08 pm
by Tommy
dig dug dan wrote:A tractor hire firm near my uncle has to run their tractors on white diesel when they deliver the machines, but red when they are actually being hired. It's a nonsense
I believe it is a grey area that needs clairfying as who is right and wrong?
The way i understood it, was that any vehicle that is classed as Agriculutural/ Construction vehicle can run on Red diesel, so long as the majority of time is spent on site, and not on road/haulage/transport
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:29 pm
by GB_Groundworks
see
http://www.fwi.co.uk/Article....ed.html
its confusing, if you run a 3cx and its primary job is road maintenance then it should be run on white as i understand it.
Can I use one tractor to swap between agricultural and non-agricultural tasks, also swapping from red to white diesel?
No.
If the vehicle is not used "solely" for agricultural, forestry or horticultural work, then it should be licensed in a more appropriate Vehicle Excise License category at the DVLA and run on white diesel all the time.
You cannot swap between red and white diesel according to the job.
That said, provided a vehicle has been drained down and is running on white diesel if stopped by Revenue and Customs while performing non-qualifying work, no action will be taken.
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:57 pm
by Mikey_C
I thought once any vehicle has had red diesel in the tank it would stain all fuels used in the future rendering the whole swapping process useless?
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:23 pm
by Dave_L
Obviously not Mikey - I thought the same......
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:30 pm
by dig dug dan
apparantley, it takes 6 months of flushing through with white diesel to remove all traces of red!
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:59 am
by seanandruby
dig dug dan wrote:apparantley, it takes 6 months of flushing through with white diesel to remove all traces of red!
but the white diesel is still white and is easy to check that.