Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:53 pm
mainland aggs
LLL
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:57 pm
or even better
mainland aggs
LLL
mainland aggs
LLL
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:01 am
Thanks for both of those links LLL. I have used reddish stone before for a customer and it may have come from the Mountsorrel quarry in Leicestershire, I can't remember. I don't know why but I think I would like something larger than 20mm. Does anyone have any views as to the ideal size of stone for a drive ? My concern is that with the sort of tyres that we have on our two vehicles they might pick small stone up and carry it out onto the highway.
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:10 pm
we used a very similar stone on a drive a few years ago and the guy is over the moon
because it is angular it knits together well
we have done other gravel drives where the customer wanted rounded 20mm stone (against my advice) and they regret it now!
LLL
because it is angular it knits together well
we have done other gravel drives where the customer wanted rounded 20mm stone (against my advice) and they regret it now!
LLL
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:57 pm
Thanks again LLL. Good to know that the chap who you put some down for is pleased with what you did.
I have been doing a bit of research today and the stone pictured above is 14mm Cumbrian red and that ought to be the colour of someone's face because I also found out the price they paid for it !
The stone I laid 20 years ago was Mountsorrel red granite and I went and looked at the job I used it for this morning and I can't tell the difference between what I saw yesterday and what I laid 20 years ago. I can have 14mm, 20mm, or 32mm. The people who I used to buy off are getting me samples of 20mm and 32mm. Is 32mm going to be too big ?
I have been doing a bit of research today and the stone pictured above is 14mm Cumbrian red and that ought to be the colour of someone's face because I also found out the price they paid for it !
The stone I laid 20 years ago was Mountsorrel red granite and I went and looked at the job I used it for this morning and I can't tell the difference between what I saw yesterday and what I laid 20 years ago. I can have 14mm, 20mm, or 32mm. The people who I used to buy off are getting me samples of 20mm and 32mm. Is 32mm going to be too big ?
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:02 pm
I cant recall where we got it but 14mm sounds right
and i know we didnt pay those silly prices
more like £70 a tonne plus haulage
but bear in mind a tonne covers around 15 m at around 35mm thick
LLL
and i know we didnt pay those silly prices
more like £70 a tonne plus haulage
but bear in mind a tonne covers around 15 m at around 35mm thick
LLL
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:36 pm
lutonlagerlout wrote:I cant recall where we got it but 14mm sounds right
and i know we didnt pay those silly prices
more like £70 a tonne plus haulage
but bear in mind a tonne covers around 15 m at around 35mm thick
LLL
They paid £72/tonne + VAT. Been quoted £32.50/tonne + VAT today for clean stone delivered. I am getting samples of 20mm & 32mm and when I get them I will post the piccies on here.
14mm looks a bit small to me, I reckon we will pick it up in the tyres. Do you reckon 32mm is too big ?
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:28 pm
imho YES
but get the samples and see what you think
although the stones may pass through a 14mm sieve it doesnt mean they are all 14mm down
some might be 25 mm long if that makes sense
LLL
but get the samples and see what you think
although the stones may pass through a 14mm sieve it doesnt mean they are all 14mm down
some might be 25 mm long if that makes sense
LLL
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:42 pm
lutonlagerlout wrote:imho YES
but get the samples and see what you think
although the stones may pass through a 14mm sieve it doesnt mean they are all 14mm down
some might be 25 mm long if that makes sense
LLL
Thanks. Yes, I am aware that xxmm doesn't mean that there is no stone bigger than xxmm in the sample. As you say, if the character of the stone is long and thin then they can appear much larger than that.
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:02 pm
The red gravel that comes from mount sorrell is called brindle, The thing is its basically all the big stuff that nobody wants in the type 1 or millwaste as the majority of the millwaste we get in leicester is red.
They sell it for about £50 per ton which makes me giggle.
I also used the basic grey gravel in the picture on page 1 a couple of months back. It looks very nice and compacts very well.
They sell it for about £50 per ton which makes me giggle.
I also used the basic grey gravel in the picture on page 1 a couple of months back. It looks very nice and compacts very well.
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:37 am
I've laid tarmac on planings for years with no ill-effects! I know it's not an ideal solution but we don't live in an ideal world!
The only thing I would say is make sure the planings are free from weed contamination, been caught by that once.
The only thing I would say is make sure the planings are free from weed contamination, been caught by that once.
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:38 am
sy76uk wrote:The red gravel that comes from mount sorrell is called brindle, The thing is its basically all the big stuff that nobody wants in the type 1 or millwaste as the majority of the millwaste we get in leicester is red.
They sell it for about £50 per ton which makes me giggle.
I also used the basic grey gravel in the picture on page 1 a couple of months back. It looks very nice and compacts very well.
Some of the "greyish" stuff in the photo. on page one is actually some of the stone suplied as Cumbrian red but because they have laid it so thinly some of the genuine grey type 1 laid underneath it is showing through already and the area hasn'r really started to be used yet !
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:59 pm
how can tarmac planings be classed a quarry waste? it come from a road.
Norfolk county council use them for footpath reconstruction sub base alot, they stock pile them for there use.
like alot of material if used well it will work well MSH
Norfolk county council use them for footpath reconstruction sub base alot, they stock pile them for there use.
like alot of material if used well it will work well MSH
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:40 am
msh paving wrote:how can tarmac planings be classed a quarry waste? it come from a road.
Norfolk county council use them for footpath reconstruction sub base alot, they stock pile them for there use.
like alot of material if used well it will work well MSH
I also wondered about that but then I'm only an amateur.
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:54 am
We use plainings for car parks and tracks
After all it's just stone mixed with asphalt that's been chopped up by a milling machine,
It compacts sufficiently well, I'd be a little more concerned laying hot bitmac on plainings only due to the heat melting the plainings and consolidating it a little more might affect levels but ultimately stronger.
I've seen engineers spec for use of plainings so the info is out there
After all it's just stone mixed with asphalt that's been chopped up by a milling machine,
It compacts sufficiently well, I'd be a little more concerned laying hot bitmac on plainings only due to the heat melting the plainings and consolidating it a little more might affect levels but ultimately stronger.
I've seen engineers spec for use of plainings so the info is out there