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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:55 pm
by Forestboy1978
bloody hell wow. Thanks GB. What your name mate?
I've just measured up and am calculating now....
No hand rails needed. 1.2 meter width paths is the minimum so will be quoting for that. Can't do asphalt. Never done it. Don't have the kit.
As far as I can see there is no area for material storage. Literally none so this is a problem but I live 50 yards away so I can store some at mine.. Disposal however is a huge issue. It will have to be done by tipper at 1.2 tons per time to the local recycling centre approx 3 miles away.
Land is level.. ish. I can adjust bordering grass areas where needed to allow me to stay at roughly 1:100 falls at all points without creating tripping hazards.
Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:05 pm
by Forestboy1978
Yeah it's just shy of 150m2 so assuming a depth of excavation of 200mm for something like sub base 150mm and gravel stabilistatioin grids with 20mm shingle at 2 inches that roughly 40+ tons
Slabs would bring it nearer 60 tons unless I went down to 4 inch sub base but soil is clay so not sure I'd want to do that. Could do that if I went gravel in grids of course bringing disposal down to 30+ tons ish but grids are expensive.
Just about to drag myself through document M to fully familiarise myself.
Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 5:28 pm
by digerjones
Think giles means get a tarmac gang in to do the tarmac.
Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:23 pm
by GB_Groundworks
i meant sub in a tarmac gang we do on anything but patching despite being ok at it let the pros do it
muck away can you get hook lifts on the road dropped in the morning picked up in the evening? don't want to be fecking around at 1.2 ton a time
even 2 8 yarders a day is better than that
im giles
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:33 pm
by Forestboy1978
I don't mind doing it IF I can charge for it.
Yeah I re read what you wrote. It might be an option re the asphalt.
However, finding room for 1 x 8 yard skip or ballast, cement and mixer is impossible. There is one area perhaps but it'd involve moving a small tree and having a pile of crap on a graveyard lol.
They've been in touch and realised the magnitude of the job.
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:26 pm
by GB_Groundworks
skip on the road? does it not have a car park?
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:53 pm
by Forestboy1978
GB_Groundworks wrote:skip on the road? does it not have a car park?
No, oddly enough there is no car park???
The church is flanked by 2 small roads. The smallest of skips would either block of pedestrian walkways and perhaps leave "just" enough road clearance for traffic or flat out block the road.
It's a bugger, it really is. I wouldn't say it's not doable, it's doable, just damn tricky to do without costs going sky high
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:01 pm
by GB_Groundworks
they want it doing they'll pay or be mandated to have it done, work cost what it costs
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:39 pm
by michaelthegardener
well said my price is my price and that's that 
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:54 pm
by Forestboy1978
It's looking like I may get this job.
Damn confounded though as to the logistics of it. I'm leaning towards a path with no edging so that I can at least load truck with spoil, take to dump and load there with scalpings and half the journeys. Something with edging will require 2 trucks which I don't have. Plan is to excavate, level, lay membrane, lay subbase , level and compact and rinse and repeat to a certain stage. Then make up mixes off the truck.
I'm really gonna have to think this through.
It's looking in excess of 20,000 to do it this way but there is no storage....
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:03 pm
by rab1
Dont want to rain on your parade but if its too big walk away, look at the margins and then the risk involved in those margins as you could find yourself bogged down on site for a year
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:04 pm
by Forestboy1978
rab1 wrote:Dont want to rain on your parade but if its too big walk away, look at the margins and then the risk involved in those margins as you could find yourself bogged down on site for a year
I hear you....
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 9:30 am
by Forestboy1978
OK, I'm still figuring it out but I think I can deposit spoil at my own address. I'll have to cover the drive with something that the grab truck won't rip up when picking up.
So....
Break job into 4 parts and do each part to completion so money can keep flowing in quicker and minimise amounts of spoil etcetera that needs to be deposited.
I'm thinking of using rumbled blocks of some description for the edges at 15cm width each side.
Line up 1/4 and get levels
disposal of 12-15 tons to my address (need to cover block paved drive- ply sheet battened together??)
Grab truck picks up
Pick up 1 ton of dry mix on the truck
Edge, edge, edge (calculate edging so turns coincide with the finish of pavers i.e no offsetting at the turns)
Whack in 125mm lime stone in 2 layers
Screeded 50mm bed 4:1 bound mortar
Lay Bradstone textured pavers 300x300mm at 3 then 2 and x2 1/2s per row and so on and so forth
Kiln dried sand to finish
Reckon 150 x 100 = £15000 + £1000 for the ? factor x vat = £19200
+20% for unusual logistical complications = £23040
:p
3 guys x 2 trucks x1 digger x1 dumper approx 4 weeks weather dependent
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 4:55 pm
by dig dug dan
Forestboy1978 wrote:OK, I'm still figuring it out but I think I can deposit spoil at my own address. I'll have to cover the drive with something that the grab truck won't rip up when picking up.
So....
Break job into 4 parts and do each part to completion so money can keep flowing in quicker and minimise amounts of spoil etcetera that needs to be deposited.
I'm thinking of using rumbled blocks of some description for the edges at 15cm width each side.
Line up 1/4 and get levels
disposal of 12-15 tons to my address (need to cover block paved drive- ply sheet battened together??)
Grab truck picks up
Pick up 1 ton of dry mix on the truck
Edge, edge, edge (calculate edging so turns coincide with the finish of pavers i.e no offsetting at the turns)
Whack in 125mm lime stone in 2 layers
Screeded 50mm bed 4:1 bound mortar
Lay Bradstone textured pavers 300x300mm at 3 then 2 and x2 1/2s per row and so on and so forth
Kiln dried sand to finish
Reckon 150 x 100 = £15000 + £1000 for the ? factor x vat = £19200
+20% for unusual logistical complications = £23040
:p
3 guys x 2 trucks x1 digger x1 dumper approx 4 weeks weather dependent
Thanks for letting me know your quote, I will go in £100 under yours.
if I get the job, can I borrow your drive? :O
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:51 pm
by mickg
I thought the same to be honest Dan 