The Brew Cabin

Posted: **Sat May 19, 2012 8:59 am**

very good simeon
are you a stand up comedian in your spare time?

LLL

Posted: **Sat May 19, 2012 6:42 pm**

No, it's someone who doesn't like phobics ???

Posted: **Sat May 19, 2012 9:59 pm**

let the record state i love lesbians....... to clarify lipstick lesbains the pretty ones not the russian weightlifting type

Posted: **Sat May 19, 2012 11:17 pm**

you are lucky giles,I am one.....
LLL :;):

Posted: **Sun May 20, 2012 10:59 am**

GB_Groundworks wrote:let the record state i love lesbians....... to clarify lipstick lesbains the pretty ones not the russian weightlifting type

At the end of the day.....a lemon is a lemon, the ones you are on about ( russian weight lifting types ) are hairy lemon's :;): :laugh:

Posted: **Sun May 20, 2012 11:23 am**

Love it!!!!! LOL :p

Posted: **Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:23 pm**

MarkRW wrote:Hi,

We are looking at getting our driveway done and I have been looking into all the various options. I'm quite interested in having it done in resin bound. After looking at various sites on the internet it appears depending on which company, you could have a 15 year guarantee, oil/petrol can be just wiped off, it isn't prone to fading via UV light, it's permeable, it's fairly non slip etc.

With all these plus points why are there hardly any drives done using this? It may just be my area but I've been looking at drives quite a lot recently and haven't seen one drive done in this. Is it just down to cost and the fact it isn't very well know or are there some negatives with this product that I'm missing?

Thanks,
Mark

Do you have any pictures of the surface you are considering repairing or upgrading? There are a lot of proven systems that are available that you can choose from. For concrete driveway resurfacing, you have a lot of options. I don't know what is available in the UK and I don;t want to step on anyones toes but the prices I've seen here are astronomical. I think I might pack up here in Australia and move to the UK if you can get away with charging that much for concrete resurfacing.

Edited By Elite Crete on 1339413855

Posted: **Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:15 pm**

ec in some parts of the uk it rains 3 days out of 7 ???
concrete technology is way advance in oz and usa compared to here
i'm lovin that stuff on your webby

but still retain doubts after seeing many failed PIC installations
LLL

Posted: **Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:01 am**

Our overlays are different in that they don't just have a mechanical bond to concrete but also a chemical bond. We actually install our product on a wet surface. We a acid wash the concrete then neutralise with ammonia, this step changes the pH in the pores of the concrete to a 7 (which is neutral), our overlays are also a 7 and this gives us chemical bond to the substrate. 7 days of rain isn't going to be a problem. You really don't have the adverse weather they do in some of the northern states in the US and also in Canada. I do understand your doubt however, there are a lot of companies offering junk and putting no R&D behind it and using the installers to see what needs to be tweaked. I wouldn't say that concrete technology is way advanced in Australia, the ones that are on top of it are borrowing the technology from the US. Contact Elite Crete Systems to get in touch with someone in the UK that can train you to use these products.

Posted: **Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:02 am**

quote
Training and certification includes the following:

- Breakfast, lunch and refreshments both days.

- All training product supplies.

- Sample of completed finishes and applications to use as sales tools.

- Product Information Binder.

- Product Information CD ROM.

- Elite Crete Systems Estimating Software.

- Marketing literature, brochures, color charts, etc.

- Elite Crete Systems hat, tee shirt or auto decals.
unquote

so that 2 days training and a CD then oh and some T shirts

what are you going to teach someone in 2 days about epoxy floor coverings?
how to sell it
LLL

Posted: **Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:08 pm**

We spend as much time telling you what not to do as we do on what you should be doing. Installing epoxy is really about crossing your "t's and dotting your i's. Obviously you can't learn it all in two days but you will come away with enough information to get a running start and you'll at least have a strong foundation to build on.

I'm sure this forum is full of DIY'ers and of course they all think it's as simple as rolling out a coat of paint or mixing a bag of "mud". If these products were just sold to anyone with a hand full of cash we would end up with an industry filled with failures and screw ups. I'm pretty sure I know why people on this forum have little faith in stamped concrete and decorative overlays...

The best thing about coming to a class and learning how to properly use these products and systems is being able to buy these products (we don't sell direct to the public, we only sell to trained applicators) and having the best technical support in the industry backing you up. Take a look at what is done in North America and Australia and you will find that any quality manufacture won't sell their product to any old home owner or contractor unless you attend a training seminar. There is a reason the quality of the industry is much further ahead abroad then it is in your neck of the woods.

Posted: **Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:42 pm**

You're pretty patronising to the DIY'ers on here - judging by the posts, they've read & re-read Tony's pages on whichever medium they decide to go for.
Unfortunately, PIC is what it is - an effin huge slab of concrete - pretending to be something else. Non-permeability, and won't grow old gracefully - VIP in my book.
I always think of the eponymous stone cladding on Vera's house in Corrie.
I'm sure you & your co are terrific and conscientious at what you do - sadly, I think it's days are numbered.

Posted: **Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:52 pm**

I'll buck the general trend here and I think some of the PIC drives local to me look great and still do some years after being laid. I like the look of them.

Posted: **Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:39 pm**

And let's be honest, we all like a good buck.

Posted: **Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:12 pm**

methinks you are a wannabe stand up simeon :laugh:
very good
LLL

The Brew Cabin

Resin bound drives - why so rare?