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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:44 am
by Suggers
I'm pretty much disgusted by every post on this thread. The only breath of fresh air, at the last minute, was LLL's post, just now.
You all sound like a medieval ignorant lynch mob. You're the kinda of riff raff, that turned up at that unfortunate paediatrician's house, baying for blood.
I'm so disappointed with you lot - there is no future for mankind if you represent us.
Brady is an effin psychopath - do you know what that means ?
I'm so angry with you lot - you sound so dumb - try reading a bit more - see you on the tools. 
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:50 am
by mickg
so Winnie sadly passed away never knowing where her son was and you call my post sad and I am dumb ?
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:20 am
by mickavalon
Suggers don't be calling people names mate, I'm not riff raff or disgusting, just because I don't agree with your principles. I happen to think that someone as Psychotic as Brady has no place amongst us, and I don't endorse capital punishment for all murderers, just those we that are 100% guilty. Whats the difference between Brady being locked up until he dies or getting rid?
I take it your thinking yourself the more humane person here, well I'm not sure condeming a person to life imprisonment is any more humane. Tell me one good reason why the likes of Brady, Huntley, Sutcliffe etc should be still alive, living relativley comfortably in Prison, having admitted the terrible crimes they've committed, with no remorse.
Shouldn't the option be there? Given all the methods of detection we have now, and given that all these people are Pyschopaths, why do you feel the need to treat them humanely?
You obviously feel quite righteous in your condemnation of us all, but put yourself in the skin of one of the victims parents or loved ones, then think how you'd feel.
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:05 am
by Carberry
mickavalon wrote:Suggers don't be calling people names mate, I'm not riff raff or disgusting, just because I don't agree with your principles. I happen to think that someone as Psychotic as Brady has no place amongst us, and I don't endorse capital punishment for all murderers, just those we that are 100% guilty. Whats the difference between Brady being locked up until he dies or getting rid?
I take it your thinking yourself the more humane person here, well I'm not sure condeming a person to life imprisonment is any more humane. Tell me one good reason why the likes of Brady, Huntley, Sutcliffe etc should be still alive, living relativley comfortably in Prison, having admitted the terrible crimes they've committed, with no remorse.
Shouldn't the option be there? Given all the methods of detection we have now, and given that all these people are Pyschopaths, why do you feel the need to treat them humanely?
You obviously feel quite righteous in your condemnation of us all, but put yourself in the skin of one of the victims parents or loved ones, then think how you'd feel.
Even with todays methods we still get it wrong, constantly and it makes it even harder to disprove. The courts in America actually fight against getting evidence from old cases tested with todays methods, despite it exonerating many people.
This site should be mandatory reading, if you get some spare time have a read over some of the profiles (under know the cases tab)
The innocence project
2 cases from there:
1. Anthony Graves - Was on death row for 12 years (in prison for 18 years total) after being found guilty of six murders. He was offered several plea deals, but turned them down because he insisted he was innocent. In 1998, another man admitted he did it, and was actually found guilty of it and locked up -- It wasn't until 2006 that Graves' case was overturned. But it took another 4 years to actually free Graves. It wasn't until the Innocence Project, and a very high profile media publication sh*tting all over the case and how it was handled to get him found innocent.
2. Michael Morton - He was in prison for 25 years, since being found guilty killing his wife in 1986. There was a bandana found less than 100 yards from his house. It wasn't until 2011 that it was actually tested for DNA and the DNA on it was actually tied to a guy in California who was tied to one murder there and one murder also in Austin after Morton's wife was murdered. Oh, there were attempts to have this tested in 2004 and 2006, but the DA AND THE JUDGE denied the request.
Case overturned after they found that a pimp lied
Wrongful conviction rape and murder Part 1
Part 2
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:02 am
by London Stone Paving
Juts to clarify Suggers i dont belive in capital punishment. Nobody has the right to take away a life.
Its all very well having your righteous views and maybe you are on a different level to the rest of us mere mortals but as Mick says, put yourself in the shoes of one of the victims and you would very quickly change your tune
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:49 pm
by lutonlagerlout
I think your personal attacks are uncalled for mark
there is fact and there is opinion
the fact is that brady et al are psychopaths
in a lot of people's opinion he has nothing coming
just because people's opinions are different to your own doesnt make them riff raff
and the patronising comment about reading............
we live in a free democracy ,that means everyone gets to air their views,even if it doesn't concur with your vision of the new world order
I am disappointed TBH
LLL
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:38 pm
by flowjoe
Very emotive subject which ever side you come at it from
Bit heavy on some of the language there suggs in a very early post, were you just coming in or about to go out ??? 
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:13 pm
by parishpaver
A fitting obituary to a lady tormented to the end.
Winnie Johnson
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:17 pm
by Suggers
Emotive is the word Flojoe - made my blood boil reading that stuff - did not mean to attack personally - trying to attack the ideas - you hang 'em, flog' em brigade just pat each other on the back - where's the opposite pov in the BC ?
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:23 pm
by flowjoe
You could be struggling to find one on the day that Anders Breivik apologised to his right wing chums for not killing more kids and students Suggs.
Clinically sane but bad, worth keeping alive ?
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:27 pm
by Suggers
ok - but if we kill him, don't we come down to his level ?
I think it was Spike Milligan who said - "eating people is wrong"
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:33 pm
by flowjoe
and wasnt it Spike who opened a can of beans at 1 minute after its sell buy date expired to see what happened, i rest my case M`lord 
Think there are plenty of guys on here happy to have the debate Suggs, without the bun fight
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:48 pm
by Suggers
yeah - you're right - apologies - just feel a bit alone in my corner ....
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:50 pm
by lutonlagerlout
in the words of the immortal spike milligan
"i saw a little worm,wriggling on its belly,so i asked it to come inside,and see whats on the telly"
I am no advocate of capital punishment ,although in every opinion poll the public are for it
but i do feel if pricks like brady,huntley,nielsson,bervik etc are locked up,there is no need for rehabilitation
the imprisonment is the punishment
also a total starvation of media
to let brady write a book is criminal to my mind
what can a man who kills children for fun possibly add to society?
I have a relative locked up for murder ,from my perspective its hard to see where he can go when he gets released
he worked with me for a while and was a lovely lad
but taking someone's life is as bad as it gets
LLL
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:03 pm
by London Stone Paving
A lesson in how to defuze a row from mr flowjoe, fairplay