Nail guns?

[Forestboy1978]

Looking for recommendations on l-ion nail guns. Mainly for fencing. Anyone know of a good one. Or maybe gas cartridge guns. I want something totally portable.

Also does such a thing as a screw gun exist. I.e a gun that spins and fires screws at high velocity into timber. I'm not sure how practical such a device would be. Just throwing it out there for any feedback or experiences.

Cheers

[TheRockConcreting]

Screw Gun

[lutonlagerlout]

paslode is where its at but the nails gas etc are expensive
the screw gun that jay showed is what our plasterers use,they are very good but there is a knack to using them
I prefer to screw than nail where possible as screws are a better fixing 9/10
LLL

[KLS]

Iv got the paslode im350, and only really use it for fencing, 50mm for the boarding and 75 or 90 for the arris rails. Its a good nailer if you keep on top of cleaning and servicing it! I have also got the screw gun that Jay said about, used it on 1 decking job and well it was a complete waste of time! ended up going back to impact driver and drill driver for the rest!

[dig dug dan]

I wont use a paslode for closeboarding. Way too heavy and expensive .to Run. I use a coil nailer, air driven, holds 350 nails. Very light, 17, 000 nails for 50 quid

[local patios and driveway]

I have a paslode 350 but the nailsbare too long for fencing, what you need is a coil nailer you can get the right size then. Plus just go for a compressed model, simples. I have a small nailer too but rarely use it

[gonchy]

as above for cost air nailers are best.
as for gas nailer u got such a choice
paslode dont like the cold but the best (im90 for cold weather)
stay away from bostick,hitachi,makita as they crap (old tec)
rawlplug new on market (£12 for 1100 nails)
dewalt no gas but expensive (lithium)

i just got given one of these http://www.hilti.co.uk/holuk....-555882

by hilti for testing and is a great gun same power as the im90 and very cheap for hilti(£399)as they want my boss to leave paslode

and as for screw guns plenty of great cordless on market

[GB_Groundworks]

We've got im350 and the smaller finishing one

Use them for everything post and rail made so much easier than hand nailing 3000 nails in a day, plus less shock to the posts with a nail gun

It's the hassle of lugging a compressor around though for the air driven ones, so much easier.

Dan you must be on a really tight margin on close board if you're saying they're more expensive, the time saved on not lugging a compressor around finding power etc or bringing generator etc vs one self contained unit.

[dig dug dan]

Never had a power issue, and I use a frame crompressor, its small and lightweight. Very rarely have to take a generator. The continuos problems with the paslode packing up was costing time and money too. Air driven nailer never let me down in 10 years.

[Forestboy1978]

Cheers lads for all that useful info.

I did look into the damn expensive paslode im350 but the range 50-90mm is perfect for close board but too big for making wayney edge panels.

It's so much money and there is so much choice it's a damn difficult decision to make. I'm leaning towards just sticking with a hammer lol!

I would really love to just screw everything though for that extra level of solidity but you guys are mixed about the screw guns? I'm always of the opinion why use a nail if you can use a screw but I want a good reliable tool

[lutonlagerlout]

the battery operated screw guns seem very reliable
methinks 32mm drywall would be ideal for closeboarding
LLL

[Forestboy1978]

Cheers LLL. I'll see if I can find somewhere that I can actually have ago on one but 32mm would surely be more than enough screw depth for close board and just about short enough for wayney edged as well!

I never even knew they existed I just knew I wanted one lol

[GB_Groundworks]

Screws have a much lower shear force vs the give in a nail hence why for roofs etc its all nailed not screwed, think how easy it is to scrap screws with a hammer blow compared to a nail.

[lutonlagerlout]

I did a fence in 2006 with 32mm dry walls and to date not 1 feather edge board has come out
the problem for me with nails is that you set up a vibration hitting them in
also the timber is more likely to split
but everyone has their own way of doing these things
LLL

[GB_Groundworks]

Yeah but that's the good thing about a nail gun it almost removes that vibration or concusive blow as its just one explosion of energy bang in onto the next one.