Recent work

[local patios and driveway]

Tony i bow to your knowledge. I think i will ask the cloent in future,,which ot os they prefer and get it on an email. Is there somewhere incan look at britstands for free online?

[local patios and driveway]

Bloody ipad, makes me look like i cant spell

[lutonlagerlout]

i thought all the gadgets make real words dan?
cloent doesnt read right to me
:;):
LLL

[Injured]

job completed 18 month previous to picture being taken



Same house 2nd job there and they want me to do some more work for them too.



Thought I had better put some more work on to give you all something to call

[henpecked]

I was under the impression that british standards were voluntary unless i had put it in a contract? Any idea?

No: if an installation is taken all the way to court, the understanding is that, if you have charged money to provide a professional service, your work will be compliant with the BS or CoP, unless it states otherwise in any written contract.

This is why I mentioned the 'opt out' of having clients instruct you in writing to override the inboard cutting in favour of aesthetics. The alternative is to have a clause along the lines of..."The standard procedure of inboard cutting will not be used on this project for aesthetic reasons".

It's the 'professional' bit that gets the contractors. I have a case at the mo' where the contractor was quite happy to take the clients' money to construct a driveway as a follow-on from building an extension, but when the driveway went wrong, he started to claim he is NOT a professional driveway installer, just a jobbing builder. Bollocks, says the courts (but not quite in that language) - you took money as part of a building services business, therefore yur work should be of a professional and workmanlike standard.

The exception would be to get your mate from down the pub to do a driveway for you on the grounds that he did his own patio last summer and it's "not that bad". In such a case, it could probably be argued that, as this 'mate' doesn't earn a living in construction or, more specifically, as a paving installer, then his liability is severely limited. He would (probably) not be considered a professional.

In a nutshell: if you make a living installing paving, your work is expected to comply with the latest CoP, BS or accepted "Best practice". Ignorance is no excuse.

Excellent reply ,Tony.
I'm trying to absorb some of these pearls of wisdom, but every time I try it pushes something else out. :laugh:

[Dave_L]

Nice work, injured!

[mickg]

looks good George

[lutonlagerlout]

looking good George
work like that sells itself
are they tobermores in the first pic?
cheers LLL

[Injured]

Thanks for the kind comments.

Yes Luton the first 2 pics are Tobermore heather tegula

[Nigel Walker]

Some tidy work injured. Like the Mayfair setts with the tegula - works well.
We currently laying a small retro patio in heather with charcoal sett border. Will post photos if manage to get it sanded and wackered !

[Tony McC]

Is there somewhere incan look at britstands for free online?

Is there eckers like!

The standards are relatively expensive, around 120 quid apiece for the 12 parts of 7533, but half price if, like me, you are a member of the BS Institute. The money pays for the development work and updating but most of the technical committees work for nothing more than a desire to contribute to the knowledge base.

7533 is widely regarded as one of the finest pavement construction methodologies in the world and is used by many other countries as their national reference.

I often get students and chancers asking me to make copies of various standards for them, but not only is it a breach of copyright, it undermines the work that BSI tries to do. Most contractors do not need all 12 (soon to be 13) parts. Part 3 for block paving and part 4 for flags are usually enough.

[GB_Groundworks]

Most architects firms and structural engineers have them but as tony said you should buy them if you want them, I priced it up in line for everything we do it came to over £1500 just for the core stuff.

[michaelthegardener]

first propper work of the year for me

[rimexboy]

Looking good is it me or did you do the fence down the side last year

[michaelthegardener]

yep done the back side and the front now and ill probably put the new shed up to when they decide on the size