Marshalls north west regional awards 2012

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Nigel Walker
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Post: # 86520Post Nigel Walker

Cobbletech Photos of the job that won us the award:

Driveway before we started
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For you lot who love wagons !! Brand new truck. This was its first delivery
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How the Cobbletech is Packaged
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Laying the Cobbletech
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Compacting with rubber mat before jointing
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Brushing in the resin
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Finished job.
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Monday - Excavated the driveway 50m2 and stoned up plus scraped off 200m2 of old gravel and then laid 15 ton of new gravel. Blocks were delivered
Tuesday - Installed drain channels, botom and top kerbs edges, laid and cut in 50m2 Cobbletech.
Not bad going for 3 of us !
Wednesday. Compacted blocks, brushed in the resin, tidy up and off site by 11am.

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Post: # 86522Post dig dug dan

now i have seen the pictures of the product, its not exactly rocket science to install. very simple and easy in fact. might recommmend it to a few people!
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Post: # 86523Post rimexboy

I think it looks fantastic, I quite like the idea of it....

The trucks got alloys all round too, that should allow for at least another pallet on the truck weight wise...

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Post: # 86527Post lutonlagerlout

i do like the branding of marshalls,very distinctive
i like the fact that for us dirty southerners it gives us an option for a realistic looking sett drive way (ish)
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Looks like a great product.
You make it look easy Nigel !

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Post: # 86542Post Nigel Walker

If you can lay block paving to a good standard, then you can lay Cobbletech.
The first time we laid it was a learning curve. We didnt go on any course, just used common sense and got on with it.
Second job we did, we had learned from a few mistakes and it was a lot easier.

With regard to weight limits. I spoke to one of the Marshalls guys the other day. He said that the product was currently going through tests (with positive results) so it can obtain the standard for commercial use in the UK. It has been used commercialy in Europe for years.

I think it is great that there is a new product that is totally different to anything else out there.
It is being backed by Marshalls and if installed by a register member then its covered for 10 years.
I imagine that Marshalls must have done their homework and plenty of tests before introducing it. They must be pretty confident that it will work in the UK using the specs they have given
If it goes wrong its a big nightmare for them with regards to publicity and cost !

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Post: # 86544Post carlbeardsmore

What keeps the edges from moving as there did not seem to be any concrete haunching behind them or under them?

Surely it cannot just rely on the resin jointing?

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Post: # 86545Post Nigel Walker

Concrete edge kerbs on all sides

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Post: # 86546Post seanandruby

Did you forget to put them in then?
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Post: # 86550Post Nigel Walker

Look closer !
There are concrete edge kerbs up both sides
There were already there before we started I suggested to client that we replaced with new ones but they wanted old ones left in place as to not disturb the established lawn

On the top and bottom of driveway we installed new kerbs

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Nigel Walker wrote:Cobbletech Photos of the job that won us the award:

Driveway before we started
Image

For you lot who love wagons !! Brand new truck. This was its first delivery
Image

How the Cobbletech is Packaged
Image

Laying the Cobbletech
Image

Compacting with rubber mat before jointing
Image

Brushing in the resin
Image

Finished job.
Image

Monday - Excavated the driveway 50m2 and stoned up plus scraped off 200m2 of old gravel and then laid 15 ton of new gravel. Blocks were delivered
Tuesday - Installed drain channels, botom and top kerbs edges, laid and cut in 50m2 Cobbletech.
Not bad going for 3 of us !
Wednesday. Compacted blocks, brushed in the resin, tidy up and off site by 11am.
Is that a compacted cbm screed then they are laid on? Mick mentioned 100mm, did you have it delivered?

Sorry might have missed this if discussed, did I see mik also say its exclusive to marshalls registered contractors?

Looks really good
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Post: # 86609Post mickg

there are two topics on the same thread Giles, I started off posting about the Fairstone driveway that was laid on 100mm concrete bed and it has digressed onto Nigel's cobbletech driveway what is laid on a conventional 150mm sub base and 40mm - 50mm sand laying course

Marshalls Cobbletech was exclusive to Marshalls installers last year but has now been made available to everyone but its still a direct to site product and at this present time you won't see any packs of Cobbletech in a builder merchants yard

they are launching a new version of Cobbletech around March time what will be exclusive to marshalls registered contractors
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Nigel Walker wrote:If you can lay block paving to a good standard, then you can lay Cobbletech.
The first time we laid it was a learning curve. We didnt go on any course, just used common sense and got on with it.
Second job we did, we had learned from a few mistakes and it was a lot easier.

With regard to weight limits. I spoke to one of the Marshalls guys the other day. He said that the product was currently going through tests (with positive results) so it can obtain the standard for commercial use in the UK. It has been used commercialy in Europe for years.

I think it is great that there is a new product that is totally different to anything else out there.
It is being backed by Marshalls and if installed by a register member then its covered for 10 years.
I imagine that Marshalls must have done their homework and plenty of tests before introducing it. They must be pretty confident that it will work in the UK using the specs they have given
If it goes wrong its a big nightmare for them with regards to publicity and cost !
my beef is not with the product its concrete so will take weight .its the flexable bed ie sand then rigid pointing is the problem they will move and crack then pop out i was also told it fixes itself but hey crack on boys marshalls are the kings :p
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Post: # 86616Post Tony McC

I'm with Cookie - rule #1 of pavement construction: rigid on rigid, flexi on flexi.

I could understand an unbound jointing material, but that then brings problems of its own in a wider-than-average joint. Similarly, I could inderstand it being laid on a bound laying course to eliminate (or at least minimise) any surface movement. Any bound jointing material has to be phenomenally flexible to work over extended periods in such an application, and so my judgement is reserved.
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Post: # 86619Post mickg

its called progress cookie :p

Marshalls are a innovative and pro active company and you can't take that away from them, It was your choice to leave the Marshall's register for what ever reasons you had but I can't believe for one minute you left because Cobbletech can only take 3.5 tons in weight, they have tested Cobbletech with wagons, fork lift trucks and cars/vans going over it and so I have been told it has not budged

they are currently testing Cobbletech so it can be launched as a commercial product, not saying it will ever replace the sett driveways that you install but it certainly offers a more cost effective alternative if that's what the customer requires
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