Marshalls north west regional awards 2012

[mickg]

thank you Stewart

[cookiewales]

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[mickg]

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[cookiewales]

cheers mickg :p

[Nigel Walker]

Cookie

Didnt know about the 3.5 ton limit on Cobbletech.
When the Marshalls guys first showed me the product, I was very sceptical.
Apparently it has been in use in Europe for a long while with no problems.
Anyway, I gave it a go. It was very quick to lay and looked great. I was pleasantly suprised
Time will tell if any problems arise.
It is a different resin than Weatherpoint (so I am told)

I think there is a new version of it coming out just for Register Members. Closer joints ? Not sure until I see it.

Natural Setts are more authentic and probably more long lasting. But how many people could afford to have their drive laid using them. For us paving contractors it means we can offer something different for the client at a greater cost than normal concrete paving, but a lot less than setts

[haggistini]

Jury's out on this one looks the part but why combine flexible paving with rigid pointing?

[cookiewales]

Cookie

Didnt know about the 3.5 ton limit on Cobbletech.
When the Marshalls guys first showed me the product, I was very sceptical.
Apparently it has been in use in Europe for a long while with no problems.
Anyway, I gave it a go. It was very quick to lay and looked great. I was pleasantly suprised
Time will tell if any problems arise.
It is a different resin than Weatherpoint (so I am told)

I think there is a new version of it coming out just for Register Members. Closer joints ? Not sure until I see it.

Natural Setts are more authentic and probably more long lasting. But how many people could afford to have their drive laid using them. For us paving contractors it means we can offer something different for the client at a greater cost than normal concrete paving, but a lot less than setts

top end price for setts £180m2 laid depends what you can buy them in at. the prep is the same bedding slightly more 75 mm to 100mm plus cement .they did look a good copy but there still concrete i would put some cement in the bedding and you can still whacker em in .i would say the resin they are using is a loss leader even at cost you must have used alot

[mickg]

the jointing product comes as a complete package within the pack, there are enough tubs to point the pack of cobbletech and have a small amount spare, its a similar product to Marshalls weatherpoint 365 but contains more resin than the weatherpoint does

Marshalls have completed the testing of Cobblertech and must be happy to launch it and to guarantee the product on the type of base it is laid on otherwise they would not put their name to it, I know it was launched a lot later than they first hoped due to a few reasons, sales did very well last year seeing its a brand new and patented design, it was only launched last June and was never promoted much other than at trade type shows but its in the 2013/14 brochure what will give it exposure to the domestic market

Like Nigel said, I am also looking forward to seeing the new version of Cobbletech launched too, I am lead to believe its a more modern rectangular looking block but with tighter joints but also pointed with a rigid product and exclusive to Marshalls Register Members only

[cookiewales]

so why only 3.5 ton weight limit on guarantee on a driveway .it will be the contractor that will cop the fall out when it fails flexable bed rigid joint gives movement .i have come across this problem many times when been undercut on m2 price for laying setts then get the phone call its failed setts are moving jointing cracking .9 times out of ten they have been laid on sand and whacked then pointed by block paving gangs and thats not y
the likeys .sometimes its the spec thats wrong :p i am not knocking the product only the laying spec :p ps it was the new product that was brought to me i would lay it on sand and cement screed but i can do the real item for the same cost if setts bought at right price plus remember they are wet vibrated concrete blocks with colour added .and mould taken of real sett



Edited By cookiewales on 1359018554

[mickg]

because 3.5 ton weight limit is the specification for domestic driveways, at this moment in time its not specified as a commercial product

Marshall's installers have been on the cobbletech training course and if the sub base has been installed to the correct procedure then its guaranteed by Marshall's

I'm not saying your wrong Cookie and I agree as I would also lay cobbletech on sand and cement screed, I much rather over engineer a driveway than to lay to the bare minimum

[GB_Groundworks]

mick are there any better pics of it up close etc, looks an interesting product but and im not comparing it its hard to beat setts for hard wearingness we run our 16 ton jcb over ours



Edited By GB_Groundworks on 1359071973

[mickg]

the only photos I have close up are these

Cobbletech

[lutonlagerlout]

I have to say the uniformity of the depth and the fact that you can never be 10M short of a particular size of cobble appeals to me
Personally i would prefer to screed an area with sand and cement and lay them on that,but as i understand it that isnt the system
I feel as a manafactured system it has very good looks
the only issue is the 3.5 tonne one
as eventually someone in a lorry always goes for it
I saw an 8 wheeler reverse onto my neighbours drive before and ruin 5 metres of clays
LLL

[London Stone Paving]

I saw an 8 wheeler reverse onto my neighbours drive before and ruin 5 metres of clays

You cant legislate for retarded lorry drivers though Tony

[msh paving]

I saw an 8 wheeler reverse onto my neighbours drive before and ruin 5 metres of clays

You cant legislate for retarded lorry drivers though Tony

As this pic shows ,but this is 6 wheels....



MSH