Blockpaving video clip

[msh paving]

This i found on u-tube, posted by Marshall's
how to lay blockpaving

MSH

[rab1]

when are Clair and the team going back to fix it?

[lutonlagerlout]

to be fair its not a bad intro to block paving,but how exactly can you access that roddable gully?
also the membrane they are using looked like it was woven
I was told never to use woven underground
I note with interest we didnt get to see the lads doing the cutting with water suppresion
also I screed the sand to 30mm below FFL then wack ,then set up my final height at 45mm below FFL
but all in all not bad
LLL

[DNgroundworks]

Bottle gulley with lid still attached taking water from the aco's?

[Carberry]

Bottle gulley with lid still attached taking water from the aco's?

Skimmed through the video but I think only gypsies would do that. I got the impression that the gulley was only there to rest the channel on for height not for actual drainage.

[lutonlagerlout]

no the gully was the final position
it should be done like this

the hole cored out in the bottom of the channels leads into a pea trap which can be accessed by removing the drain lids
I think they were just trying to be too clever
good advice on services though
LLL

[specialbranch]

The Lads doing the Work are my former partner Matt and employee Mez. Got to stick up for Matt he is as good a paver as they come his standard of finish is first rate (grugingley
better than me). We occasionally used bottle gulleys to act as a trap under the Acos and just core out 100mm from the cover to get your hand in and remove the leaves not strictly the part for the job but it works. Re the woven Terram the stuff we used is sold to prevent rutting under paved roads, but as we did a fair bit of landscaping it works in for the borders etc. I dont think the non woven stuff should be used for landscaping etc as its affected by UV light? Thats what I was told anyhow.

[lutonlagerlout]

I find the bottle gullys are better for kitchen waste etc,far easier to access for rodding
with the pea trap you have only got to put your hand 9 inches below the lid of the gullys to clean it out
the finished job there looked great
would have been nice if they had showed some wet cutting in progress and the amount of slurry it produces
as i always like to tell people
you cant make an omelette without breaking eggs
I imagine it would be very hard working with cameras on you all day
fair play to them
LLL

[Bob_A]

Well I'm no expert but it looks like an ok video to me.
I reckon anyone could put a video up on here and someone else would find fault with it if they tried hard enough.

[lutonlagerlout]

agreed bob
but the website is paving expert and they are the premium brand in the Uk
I doubt I would want to be in such a video but the bottle gully under the aco is NOT correct neither is woven fabric under the drive or around the SUDs
the general info especially regarding services is good,but its all in the detail
to my mind excluding the cutting from the film eliminates a very messy and hard part of the job that we all have to endure
I was on the stihl for 5 hours friday doing my own smaller drive
didnt hear or see the saw once in that clip :;):
cheers
LLL

[local patios and driveway]

Nahh that bottletrap is flawed, could easily create a void under the paving amd if blocked the potential to wash out that corner is certain. Why buy a bottle when a p trap is better suited and cheaper and less labour intensive? I dont get it

[Thehandmadegarden]

Didn't like the way the the step was built either. Don't like to see voids in the step like that. Bricking over the Acco is not for me. I would have preferred to see them pipe through the step, as they wont get the lids off.
I wouldn't use sand for the soak away. Unless you are going to tape the joints, that sand is going to work in to the crates. My preferred method is to wrap the crates in none woven, then pea gravel wrapped again in membrane.
Its a good video but if its so public and its Marshalls it needs to tick all the boxes not just some of them.

Clive
The Handmade Garden Company

[lutonlagerlout]

as usual clive is spot on
its not a guide to installing block paving
its just a guide to how it happens
but in fairness to the guys they did a good job
and the guys presenting was very amenable
8.5/10
LLL