What type mortar - What mortar to use for laying coping

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glenne_n
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Post: # 82726Post glenne_n

Hi all,

I'm laying 600x300 coping on a 9 inch block wall.

I'm getting conflicting advice whether to use mortar using sharp or building sand.
Does it matter which you use.
Also do I adopt the normal spacing as in bricklaying or butt the coping an have expansion joints at various point.

The longest run is only 3M

Thanks in advance
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Post: # 82728Post mickg

Use building sand with a 4:1 mix and leave a 10mm - 12mm space between each coping and strike each joint with a brick jointer or pointing trowel
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Post: # 82729Post glenne_n

Thanks,

Have a good weekend
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Post: # 82730Post local patios and driveway

Do not take any advice from the man telling you to use sharp sand! Jeezus

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Post: # 82735Post Carberry

What Mick and Lpad said. Sharp sand won't bond properly and it looks crap. I put some SBR in the mix when laying coping too.

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Post: # 82737Post glenne_n

Sorry !!! I'm a new DIYer, what is SBR??
Was also told by to add PVA or the like to the mix
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Post: # 82740Post lutonlagerlout

sbr is what the pros use
pva is ok internally but not for outdoors
i use 3:1 sand cement and SBR on copings,but if they are white concrete i point them with some 1:1
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Post: # 82742Post glenne_n

Not white but terracotta,

Thanks all, 3:1 sand cement with SBR it is then (just have to find out what SBR is now) :D

Oh !!!, the mortar depth, any minimum/maximum recommendations ??
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Post: # 82748Post seanandruby

sbr = styrene butadiene rubber
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Post: # 82755Post glenne_n

Right, got the SBR (expensive stuff), instructions are vague referring to screeding and slurry, how do I use it? do I add it to the water (if so, what ratio)
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Post: # 82758Post lutonlagerlout

5 litres water :1 litre SBR should be more than ample
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Post: # 82762Post glenne_n

Thanks LLL,

Super job...
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Post: # 82772Post mickg

it needs to be diluted less than 5:1 to apply it to the rear side of the copings otherwise it will be like milk and end up everywhere if your not careful

10mm - 12mm bed for the copings, tap into place gently using a rubber mallet or a lump hammer and a piece of 3 x 2 timber and check for being level
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Post: # 82773Post glenne_n

OK !!!!! so you apply the SBR mixture to the coping (or wall ???) not to the mortar mix ???
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Post: # 82776Post lutonlagerlout

sorry i was thinking of the mortar
you can paint the sbr neat on the back of the slabs and step
as mickg points out
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