Channel drainage above garage damp course

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Robo
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Post: # 74664Post Robo

Hello.

I'm running drainage across my house and garage but the garage is lower than the house. The drains will be 2 bricks below the house dpc but 1 above the garage dpc.

If I were to paint the bricks 150mm above the drains with wickes damp proof course paint would this be ok?

Many thanks.

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Post: # 74666Post local patios and driveway

Nahh that will just trap moisture behind and above the damp course, put a picture up for the lads to have a look.

Robo
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Post: # 74667Post Robo

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This is where the drains are going to to connect. I ideally want them to all be level but this means breaching the dpc

Robo
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Post: # 74669Post Robo

This is the house on right garage on left.

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Post: # 74670Post Pablo

http://www.pavingexpert.com/dpc01.hhtm
middle of the page dry area arrangements.




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Can't see it from my house

Robo
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Post: # 74671Post Robo

I did have a read of that before but am looking for a solution to keep the drains the same level. A builder has suggested installing some lead flashing 150mm up 50mm down. Would this be acceptable?

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Post: # 74675Post local patios and driveway

Do not listen to that builder! What a bodger. The only solution i would be happy with is the whole surface 2 courses below garage dpc. Anthing you put infront of the bricks that are above the dpc will be a trap for damp. They need to be exposed so they can breath and stay dry.

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Post: # 74679Post DNgroundworks

Can you not have the drains finishing 4 bricks below damp on the house, and 2 below the garage dpc to get them on the same level and have a step to get in the house door? whoever built the garage made a cock up there, surely they should have got FFL and the damp courses of the two buildings level?

LLL knows a bit about lead flashings and work arounds hell be along shortly

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Post: # 74683Post lutonlagerlout

code 4 lead flashing is an expensive but acceptable workaround
the linear drain must be flush with the garage floor that is your datum, the drain should then cut across the front of the house at that level with 1:80 fall approx
you will probably need to build a step or ramp to gain access to your door
a picture of the whole frontage would be handy
cheers LLL :)
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Robo
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Post: # 74721Post Robo

Lowering the whole garden would be a nightmare as the whole garden would need to be hand dug but I agree a 2 and 4 below would be best.

I've thought about staggering the drains but a 200mm wide void is going to be a hazard with small children around.

What I'm looking at now is a 150mm hardcore base upto 1 below damp, drain on top of this 1 above damp with flashing 1 below and 2 above damp.

The garage is single skin so if I have problem I'm sure they wil soon show themselves.

Things are never simple!

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Post: # 74722Post lutonlagerlout

I have staggered drains height wise before but we had to build a small retaining wall to overcome the difference in levels
a picture of the whole frontage would be handy
cheers LLL :)
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Forestboy1978
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Post: # 74771Post Forestboy1978

Why would the garden have to hand dug? You can if necessary get a mini digger through a front door and through the house if you have no gate! Worse case scenario!

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Post: # 74775Post seanandruby

Bit of a tight space between there to use a digger, you wouldn't be able to swing the arm, so you'd have to keep pulling it back.
sean

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Post: # 74787Post Robo

A diggers out the question im afraid, as is lowering to 4 below damp as this would mean replacing the mains sewer pipe where the man hole is on the patio.

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