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Forestboy1978
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Post: # 74373Post Forestboy1978

I have been looking into sealing sandstone as a method to prevent oil stains etc etc. A customer wants to run his petrol lawnmover over his patio and is worried about staining.

I looked into sealing it but the costs for this are around £1000 for 40m2 with follow up treatments so I was wondering what reactionary methods there might be.

On sandstone it appears no acid.
Caustic soda - jury's out
Sandbasting - not sure
rubbing a brick on sharp sand (no grit) with water and detergent - interesting

I can't see any of this working for an oil stain though.

Would love to hear peoples opinions and experiences on this!

Cheers :)

Forestboy1978
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Post: # 74374Post Forestboy1978

Another one I just thought of is using a floor polisher with abrasive pads! Dunno

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Post: # 74378Post lutonlagerlout

40m2 would cost around £80 for lithofin MN stainstop

lets make things easier not harder :;):

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Forestboy1978
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Post: # 74379Post Forestboy1978

Ok thanks for that, that certainly is cheaper but it's not £80

Lithofin MN Stain Stop - Coverage: dependent on absorbent properties of stone- - about 15 m2/L for polished stone - about 6-8 m2/L for natural and sawn stone - about 3-6 m2/L for porous sandstone and limestone

So this is between best case scenario @ the cheapest I can find it per litre for 25 quid.... covering 6 metres per litre £166.66 or worst at 3 metres per litre £333. Does this account for needing 2 coats like all the rest seem to need. Does it need 2 coats it doesn't say so I presume so.

See what am I supposed to say to this guy. Yeah mate that sandstone patio I laid you, well,,, you may need to spend best part of 500 quid keeping it clean or you're just gonna ruin it trapsing to and from your shed with god knows what!

Shit!

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Post: # 74381Post rab1

you get what you pay for. :O
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Post: # 74382Post Carberry

Forestboy1978 wrote:See what am I supposed to say to this guy. Yeah mate that sandstone patio I laid you, well,,, you may need to spend best part of 500 quid keeping it clean or you're just gonna ruin it trapsing to and from your shed with god knows what!
Supposed to go over all of that in the quoting / design process. The pros and cons for each material and method of laying followed by your recommendation.

Forestboy1978
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Post: # 74383Post Forestboy1978

Carberry wrote:
Forestboy1978 wrote:See what am I supposed to say to this guy. Yeah mate that sandstone patio I laid you, well,,, you may need to spend best part of 500 quid keeping it clean or you're just gonna ruin it trapsing to and from your shed with god knows what!

Supposed to go over all of that in the quoting / design process. The pros and cons for each material and method of laying followed by your recommendation.
Fair enough. that's a constructive comment, I appreciate it!

I didn't offer to do this. I was asked. I opted for a different stone and they didn't want to pay for it and chose this one. I had seen it laid but never laid it myself and I said as much. Now I feel responsible.

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Post: # 74387Post lutonlagerlout

4 litres would be ample for most sandstone FB
i reckon on about 12.5 M 2 per litre on my own sandstone patio
most floor guys use a sponge to apply it so it only takes around a half an hour on a warmish day :)
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Post: # 74389Post Carberry

Forestboy1978 wrote:
Carberry wrote:
Forestboy1978 wrote:See what am I supposed to say to this guy. Yeah mate that sandstone patio I laid you, well,,, you may need to spend best part of 500 quid keeping it clean or you're just gonna ruin it trapsing to and from your shed with god knows what!

Supposed to go over all of that in the quoting / design process. The pros and cons for each material and method of laying followed by your recommendation.

Fair enough. that's a constructive comment, I appreciate it!

I didn't offer to do this. I was asked. I opted for a different stone and they didn't want to pay for it and chose this one. I had seen it laid but never laid it myself and I said as much. Now I feel responsible.
Muddies the waters a bit, but I try and make everything absolutely clear before doing any work so there is no comeback on me.

Your client has at least some responsibility, I would tell them that it is your recommendation that they seal the stone to prevent any staining and that it will cost whatever your fee is.

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Post: # 74398Post Pablo

Personally I'd advise the client to get his mower fixed so it didn't leak problem solved and no need to seal the paving.
Can't see it from my house

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Post: # 74425Post Bec@LondonStone

If you use Dry Treat 'Stain Proof' it should cost around £300 max and you won't have to reapply, it's a one off application.

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Post: # 74428Post DNgroundworks

ha ha i like pablos advice, just fix the leaking mower, solve a few problems at once :D

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Post: # 74430Post lutonlagerlout

or thinking laterally, get rid of the grass
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Post: # 74433Post Carberry

lutonlagerlout wrote:or thinking laterally, get rid of the grass
LLL :)
Or think Italian or Jewish and cover your patio in shrink wrap :laugh:

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