Service pipes - Ho to get plans

dig dug dan · Post: # 70972Post **dig dug dan** Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:17 pm

does anyone know if there is a way online of getting hold of a plan for a property (ies) of where their services are likelyt to be buried.
Am doing a fence next week and was hoping to auger the holes, but am unsure about if i will hit anything untoward!

ilovesettsonmondays · Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:24 pm

i.i dont think you will be able to get plans to be honest .maybe on new builds.lethal them augers when they hit a root or brick .

dig dug dan · Post: # 70977Post **dig dug dan** Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:29 pm

lethal them augers when they hit a root or brick .

this is on the back of a tractor, so shouldn't be a problem
a gas pipe however ???

Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:39 pm

i tend now to only use ours were i know for sure there isnt going to be anything i'e rural etc, pulled a electric cable up with it, chewed the sheathing of it, they do tend to go either side and just pull it up but as you cant see they are dangerous, you can dial before you dig but its not like the states where they offer a marking service.

and a pencil line on a plan equates to about 50cm or more in real life, just do a survey and go easy or if grounds ok hand dig. is it garden fence or field fencing?

dig dug dan · Post: # 70982Post **dig dug dan** Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:48 pm

this should show a google maps image of a large row of conifers, infront of which is a panel fence (some missing)
The conifers have gone, roots have been ground ( not by me), and i have to put up a new cb fence in its place

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=....,0,2.11

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Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:55 pm

i can see three services trenches so should be easy to trace 1 running towards house, 2 running down the street one quiet near the connifers,

what size auger were you going to use 6" roots can take a bit of chewing through and on teh tractor pto ones they tend to bounce dont they on the float of the 3 point linkage, and can you reverse it?

Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:00 am

looks fairly new dan,if you find the electric with a CAT chances are the gas will be in the same trench
LLL

dignfence · Post: # 70990Post **dignfence** Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:03 am

LLL is pretty well spot on,however if you phone National Grid/Transco on 0845 6056677 they "should" point you in the right direction by giving the correct information as to who is the utilities provider etc,Cannt be any more accurate than that as not my area! BT are available on 0800 9173993. All maps will be sent free. Hope this is of help DNF

haggistini · Post: # 70991Post **haggistini** Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:04 am

1 of these and a 5ft bar then well earned beers?

Post: # 71002Post **Dave_L** Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:18 pm

haggistini wrote:1 of these and a 5ft bar then well earned beers?

That looks like bloody hard work!

haggistini · Post: # 71006Post **haggistini** Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:29 pm

Bessie and her ugly sister Can smash 10 post holes before 10am not nice work in the summer tho, but les chance of hitting services and who has ever found cables to be exactly on plans even on new builds!!!

Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:54 pm

you know why proper shovels and spades have wooden or plastic handles?

you hit a mains or even garden cable thats not wired correct and you're either very badly burned or dead.....

if its a new build then bt, electric should all be ducted and chances are they all came in one service trench as has been said.

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dig dug dan · Post: # 71009Post **dig dug dan** Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:27 pm

indeed giles

I think i maky have to dig a test hole and see whats there. will also try and locate the gas stop cock, as that should be a good indication

thanks for the help!

haggistini · Post: # 71010Post **haggistini** Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:46 pm

Most shovels are a two handed affair and I've always used steel ones albeit woodern grip don't know how I'd fair with a wooden garden spade and plastic handle if I sliced a 11Kv?
In regards to new builds "service maps" are NOT 100% accurate Fact. You need a cat and genny and know how to use it and then you still need to be careful.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/press/2010/coi-wm-25210.htm

Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:45 pm

I did 12 600 deep holes in a morning by hand on my jack the other week,ground was nice though :;):
I used to think the electric was tough but a cable jointer told me a strong blow from a fork will pierce the sheath
the obvious way is to look for signs of made up ground,also look where the meter boxes are in the house
the drive we did in october the electric ran right under a 6 M tree!!
obviously the tree wasnt there when the cable was laid
LLL