Poa

[dignfence]

Have been looking on the web for a fresh 13-16tonne swing shovel,why is it every time you come across one that is of interest it says POA? Just say what you want for it,that way I will only enquire about it if it is within my budget and not waste everyones time icluding my own!!

ps what is the going rate for that size machine at the moment? Am charging £30/hr for my 9tonner at the present.

DNG

[dig dug dan]

not answering the question, but i agree on the poa. Any advert that says that, i ignore.

[local patios and driveway]

Me too, no price means too expensive

[dignfence]

should I not ask questions like that on or give information like I did on here? New to forums and the like so might need teaching some of the etiquette!(apart from the terms and conditions of course) I also know not to SHOUT but that is about it! DNF

[local patios and driveway]

Dignfence, nahh you read us wrong mate. You did it right we are just agreeing with you but didnthave the answer you were really looking for, plant wise the guys at ceforum will give you detailed info on the shovel

[dig dug dan]

you have done nothing wrong. I think most guys with machines charge by the day rather than by the hour

[Pablo]

I had to Google swing shovel I thought you might be a yank turns out it's just the humble old 360. Your rate seems on the money.

[local patios and driveway]

Au contraire dan. When you get to the larger macines its all calculated by the hour.

Heres an interesting thread giving details by the hour of current operators around the uk.

http://www.ceforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2618&highlight=hour

[dig dug dan]

surely you cannot book a mahcine for just an hours work?
its not worth the owner/driver getting out of bed. min one day i would assume ???

[dignfence]

Its down to common sense really,some jobs are done on price,
some on a weekly rate,some on a daily rate,I try to encourage a minimum weeks hire and always charge for machine delivery onto site(one way only).Smaller jobs I hire a smaller machine in as you can get delivery of machine as part of hire charge.
Also there are jobs we do where the machine has been on site but only used for a few hours a day to make life easier and it would be unfair to charge the client for a full days use.
DNF
PS,Sorry Pablo swing shovel is Devon slang for a 360 tracked excavator,I am always being told off for using that description.

[lutonlagerlout]

i still call them hymacs,most lads call them by the tonnage round here ,so its a 3.5,9 or 17.5
I was looking at a local firms price list
£££!!!
seems there is a lot of money in plant
LLL

[local patios and driveway]

Trust me, there aint a lot of money in plant, most work on a three year plan and currently the return isnt like it was 15 years ago

[lutonlagerlout]

I meant selling it not renting it
I bet you need a lot of work to justify those big machines
LLL

[GB_Groundworks]

weve got two sat doing nothing at mo, 16 ton and 13 ton infact non of our machines are working at mo gone very quiet been of these last two weeks without any work till big extension starts just what you need pre xmas.

i charge by the job mostly but have set day rates, the yanks have it rightover plant pricing they charge $110/hr for 13-16 ton machines just not the business for it here with guys going out with a mini for £100 a day etc.

POA is designed to get you on the phone so they can talk you into buying something etc but it always puts me off, most ppl shop on price what they can afford its rare to say sod the price and buy on condition make etc

what are you looking for any particular specification or brand? etc

[London Stone Paving]

Not a big fan of POA myself. just says to me that they are scared to put the price on and they aint got a lot of confidence in what they are selling.

I liken it to these paving companies who create these fancy, nondescript names for their products. Just creates confusion