Do i need to put in a sub-base? - Do i need to put in a sub-base?

Patio flagstones (slabs), concrete flags, stone flags including yorkstone and imported flagstones.
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Post: # 68742Post lutonlagerlout

i find the SBR helps a lot
if its a hot day you might need it a bit wetter than peanut butter
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Post: # 68895Post syec

The slabs are all down, it took me three days to lay 24m2, it was a learning curve! The first mixes were a bit dry but once I got the hang of laying it on a wetter mix it went quicker and easier, and as you say LD&P it felt like they really bonded.
I messed up one gap, it was a bit wide, it was too late to adjust it, it was going off pretty quick in the full sun on Sunday! That threw a few others out, but its not too bad.
The gaps between the paving and sleepers will be filled with limestone chippings, the slabs at the edges are haunched to half their height.

LLL thanks for the tips on the SBR, at 100ml a mix i had a tiny bit left over and it felt like it helped keep it moving without it and the sun I would have struggled to get it out of the mixer!.

The wife is pretty pleased with it too, even took a photo to show the mother in law!
Just wanted to say thanks very much to all for all the help to get this far!

All that left now is the pointing, I have got two tubs Fastpoint form stone market, any tips on using it?
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Post: # 68898Post lutonlagerlout

looks a fine job from here syec :)
i would be well pleased with that
well done
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Post: # 68946Post Thehandmadegarden

Luton...Tanalised is pressure treated from the outside in, so the middle remains untreated. Any cross cuts need to have two coats on 'Ensele' to maintain the treatment If you rip along the grain then the timber has to be sent back for retreatment. Some treatment grades are better than others depending on the end use.

What's with the 'Sticking down' of the flags? I know we call them flags, but they don't blow away in the wind :-/ Each unto their own I suppose.
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Post: # 68947Post local patios and driveway

Looks good syec. Was worth taking your time and doing the homework, we have seen plenty of jobs from pros that are far worse. Looks well

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Post: # 68952Post DNgroundworks

Thehandmadegarden wrote:What's with the 'Sticking down' of the flags? I know we call them flags, but they don't blow away in the wind :-/ Each unto their own I suppose.
I like it!

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Post: # 68969Post London Stone Paving

Nice job, you've obviously put a lot into it all the tools of the trade are visible, string lines, long straight edges, paving patterns. if the mrs is happy, you've nailed it

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Post: # 68987Post lutonlagerlout

Thehandmadegarden wrote:Luton...Tanalised is pressure treated from the outside in, so the middle remains untreated. Any cross cuts need to have two coats on 'Ensele' to maintain the treatment If you rip along the grain then the timber has to be sent back for retreatment. Some treatment grades are better than others depending on the end use.

What's with the 'Sticking down' of the flags? I know we call them flags, but they don't blow away in the wind :-/ Each unto their own I suppose.
well especially on steps and exposed edges injun stone has a tendency to move
so you use a wetter mix and add SBR and they are stuck like peanut butter to a blanket :;):
i use the wet/sbr method and dont get rockers so it suits me
not saying other methods are wrong but i see a lot of rocking patio flags laid on drier mixes
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LLL
Def agree with you wet mix on steps and unsupported edges. One thing I would say about SBR is wash your tools off at dinner otherwise by pack up its a bugger to get off
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Post: # 69000Post syec

Thanks all, feedback is much appreciated, I am looking forward to the final touches this weekend, will post the final pics then.
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