Plasticiser or no plasticiser? - Plasticiser or no plasticiser?

Patio flagstones (slabs), concrete flags, stone flags including yorkstone and imported flagstones.
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Boy Wonder
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Post: # 68150Post Boy Wonder

Paving a driveway, would you use plasticiser in the 'wet mix' or not.
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Pablo
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Post: # 68151Post Pablo

what kind of paving are you using and what's your construction method.
Can't see it from my house

Boy Wonder
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Post: # 68158Post Boy Wonder

Indian sandstone to be laid over 50mm compacted granular layer over 150mm compacted mot type 1.
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DNgroundworks
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Post: # 68160Post DNgroundworks

No good is that method on a driveway, flags need laying in a minimum of 100mm mass concrete preferably with a bond bridge, or the power steering and traffic movments will just ruin it in no time.

Whats a 50mm compacted granular layer?

Boy Wonder
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Post: # 68161Post Boy Wonder

I have laid a 150mm compacted layer of mot type 1 and then a further 50mm of compacted stonedust. I was going to then lay sandstone paving on a 75-100mm of wetmix mortar but i do not want to compromise the strength of the mortar by using plasticiser (is plasticiser a good idea or will it weken the mix?)
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DNgroundworks
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Post: # 68162Post DNgroundworks

Ah get you now, i wouldnt use plasticiser, no point, if anything id use SBR. Id use a concrete mix using 10mm ballast though not just straight sharp sand.

Boy Wonder
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Post: # 68163Post Boy Wonder

Thanks Ganger, sounds good to me. Just a thought, what about a stonedust & cement based 'mortar'

Ta
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DNgroundworks
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Post: # 68164Post DNgroundworks

I wouldnt know pal, but ive had some "barrow mix" concrete before and im sure they used some crushed lime shite for the aggregate and the strength was comparable to lets say soggy digestive biscuits - crap!

Boy Wonder
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Post: # 68165Post Boy Wonder

Thanks Ganger :)
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Post: # 68166Post DNgroundworks

No probs.

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