First go at paving

Patio flagstones (slabs), concrete flags, stone flags including yorkstone and imported flagstones.
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GB_Groundworks
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Post: # 67991Post GB_Groundworks

i dont use plastiser in bedding mix doesnt need to be flowing like bricklaying mortar
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Heed
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Post: # 68032Post Heed

I've got 2 bags of yellow sand, plasticiser and cement ready to go. I'm just hoping the gun turns up today now.

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Post: # 68037Post London Stone Paving

Am I missing something here? Surely its best to go with easipoint

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Post: # 68064Post rab1

its all about cost.

remember and mix it like a brickies mix, gun works best that way.
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Post: # 68261Post Heed

Well gents. I've just had some time where time off work coincided with reasonable weather. I made the mix as specified 3 sand, 1 cement, as wet as a brickies mix and with plasticiser (I can't believe how little you need). It started off well then about 2 slabs in the gun was jamming every 10-12 inches. I cleared the gun and tried again and the same thing kept happening. I didn't get more than a foot at any one point before the gun jammed. I tried a drier mix to no avail, then a wetter mix, then a mix with more plasticiser and all of them jammed the gun. The 'nozzle' on the gun is a reasonable size 6x8mm or so.

Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong? It looks like I need to try and source 50kg of Easipoint if this isn't going to work.

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Post: # 68271Post rab1

Add more cement and wash out the gun before refilling.
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Post: # 68277Post lutonlagerlout

London Stone Paving wrote:Am I missing something here? Surely its best to go with easipoint
100% steve
I have never had any luck using normal sand in guns
i recall pink paving saying that he used 3:1 plastering sand:cement with loads of plasticisizer,but for me personally its easipoint all the way
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Heed
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Post: # 68282Post Heed

Cheers fellas. I'll try Rab's idea as I have the cement and sand sat ready. If that fails I'll go for the easipoint. Can you buy it if you're non trade?

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Post: # 68330Post digerjones

have you whisked the mixture, because i think thats what you have to do. also cut the hole bigger on the spout if needed. i do own one but only used once and that was with easypoint.
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Post: # 68346Post Heed

I didn't whisk it but I used the mixer that I got with the gun attached to a drill which seemed to mix it very well.

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Post: # 68355Post digerjones

yes that what i ment the padle thingy on the drill. i used a bag of easypoint i had left over from another job today. the more i use it the more i dont want to use compo again for pointing.
dylan

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Post: # 68356Post lutonlagerlout

wait till you use an old bag dylan
its like lightning!
I too am sticking with easipoint for now
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Post: # 68359Post digerjones

lutonlagerlout wrote:wait till you use an old bag dylan
what do you mean about useing an old bag. thnk i've used a few old bags but thats been after too much stella :p . thing with easypoint is i dont think its dear its the cariage and bm's dont stock it, or theres not enough local supliers.
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Post: # 68361Post London Stone Paving

The one drawback of Easipoint is that it is packed in paper bags. Its not right that you can get a strong waterproof plastic for a £3 bag of cement but you pay £25 for Easipoint and it comes in a paper bag which can easily get ripped or water damaged.

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Post: # 68362Post DNgroundworks

I buy direct from Parex the company that took over easipoint. They have a depot in Chorley lancs. Way cheaper than the BM'S, im paying £15.91 plus vat, per bag.

I agree with the paper bag point, ive got 6 left over bags in the unit of varying different colours, how long will they last?

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