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Poor old Michael - have to say I loved him in his day - happened to see that prog about 'light-entertainment' that was on last night - Barrymore sounded basically coherent, but a bit like the batteries were slowly running down - is that the anti booze drugs - make you sound like you've taken a jar of mandrax ?
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Been having a think about this today and I'm 99% certain that he's not dead and is currently having a chat with the CIA whilst having an upside down electric bath with a sand bag on his head and a bamboo manicure. To many things don't add up.
Why would they spend 10 years and thousands of lives searching for him then chuck his body over the side of a ship within 24hrs of finding him they realeased footage of Saddam so why not him.
It would be impossible to get his body to an aircraft carrier witin 24hrs.They would have to fly him back to Afghan then transfer him by slow propellor plane thousands of miles out into the Indian Ocean. The flight would have to be over either Iran (no chance) Pakistan (if they didn't know what was happening they sure would by now or India which would add a further few thousand miles.
It would not be possible to fly 4 helicopters with Jet topcover and refuelling tanker over one of the most observered regions in the world without the Pakistanies knowing abouti t because they would have been shot down. A helicopter has to climb to 10000ft to safely refuel thats an easy and very slow target.
The Operation would have been conducted by Delta not seal teams there's no way they'd trust the most important special forces raid in living memory to the B team. Seals are no better trained than the Arctic and mountain Cadre of our Royal Marines so I'm sure we'd have sent the SAS not them.
Also the proproganda is bullsh#t aparently his compound was worth $1million no it wasn't it was a sh#thole and he'd obviously committed jihad on the cleaner. You could buy half of Pakistan for that kind of money. And hiding behind his wife thats just to make him look like a tw#t it didn't happen.
Hopefully in a few days time he'll start to sing like a parrot and TBH I'm happier that he's probably getting his b#llocks fried by a cattle prod than him being dead.
The only question is will the yanks ever admit to it and put him on trial of will he be kept captive forever.
Why would they spend 10 years and thousands of lives searching for him then chuck his body over the side of a ship within 24hrs of finding him they realeased footage of Saddam so why not him.
It would be impossible to get his body to an aircraft carrier witin 24hrs.They would have to fly him back to Afghan then transfer him by slow propellor plane thousands of miles out into the Indian Ocean. The flight would have to be over either Iran (no chance) Pakistan (if they didn't know what was happening they sure would by now or India which would add a further few thousand miles.
It would not be possible to fly 4 helicopters with Jet topcover and refuelling tanker over one of the most observered regions in the world without the Pakistanies knowing abouti t because they would have been shot down. A helicopter has to climb to 10000ft to safely refuel thats an easy and very slow target.
The Operation would have been conducted by Delta not seal teams there's no way they'd trust the most important special forces raid in living memory to the B team. Seals are no better trained than the Arctic and mountain Cadre of our Royal Marines so I'm sure we'd have sent the SAS not them.
Also the proproganda is bullsh#t aparently his compound was worth $1million no it wasn't it was a sh#thole and he'd obviously committed jihad on the cleaner. You could buy half of Pakistan for that kind of money. And hiding behind his wife thats just to make him look like a tw#t it didn't happen.
Hopefully in a few days time he'll start to sing like a parrot and TBH I'm happier that he's probably getting his b#llocks fried by a cattle prod than him being dead.
The only question is will the yanks ever admit to it and put him on trial of will he be kept captive forever.
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it all seems very odd to me
mind you al queda is on the rocks a lot of muslim countries are rebelling against their regimes,saudi is the one i would be interested seeing kick off, petrol £5 a litre anyone?
i still cant work out when 19 of 20 high jackers were Saudi nationals why we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan
heard of the carlyle group?
its in American industry's interests to keep beating up on small oil rich nations to keep the flow of gun money going,sell them the arms then go blast them and rob their oil
I'm off again
LLL :;):
mind you al queda is on the rocks a lot of muslim countries are rebelling against their regimes,saudi is the one i would be interested seeing kick off, petrol £5 a litre anyone?
i still cant work out when 19 of 20 high jackers were Saudi nationals why we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan
heard of the carlyle group?
its in American industry's interests to keep beating up on small oil rich nations to keep the flow of gun money going,sell them the arms then go blast them and rob their oil
I'm off again
LLL :;):
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Have to disagree with you Pablo, delta rated 4th below seals at 2 and our sas at 1
http://listverse.com/2010....-forces
It was the seals that messed up that rescue of our female charity worker
You hold you've got to charge him etc etc etc easiest thing was literally in a western way to behead him, no trial no execution etc etc get it done before liberals get involved. He'd have never been taken alive and doubt he'd have talked, even with water boarding et al
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http://listverse.com/2010....-forces
It was the seals that messed up that rescue of our female charity worker
You hold you've got to charge him etc etc etc easiest thing was literally in a western way to behead him, no trial no execution etc etc get it done before liberals get involved. He'd have never been taken alive and doubt he'd have talked, even with water boarding et al
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My main doubt is that I can't believe the yanks managed it without casualties. Judging by all their previous effrots at this kind of activity( Vietnam,Iran,grenada, Iraq, Afghanistan etc, etc) they usually shoot at least a few of their's, if only to make is seem fairer I presume.
Their are a lot of dodgy things about everything involved in this "War". A lot of people seem to die nasty deaths all over the world in various civil Wars, but we ain't doing anything to solve those, just the Oil Nations. Has anyone read 1984?!?! :rock:
Their are a lot of dodgy things about everything involved in this "War". A lot of people seem to die nasty deaths all over the world in various civil Wars, but we ain't doing anything to solve those, just the Oil Nations. Has anyone read 1984?!?! :rock:
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Seals are roughly same number as our sas/sbs
Sean, was there any oil in the balklands? Sierra Leon?.....
Hence why seans point is null and void, yeah the yanks have lots of special forces mote than our whole army probably but the seals are a small elite unit. And their good not sas good but good, states has so many special forces due to the size of their army they've got Akita of young scared trigger happy uneducated lads and they rely on technical and firepower supremacy as opposed to having better soldiers. We have some of the best soldiers in the world.
I can perfectly believe an elite force specialising in in building fighting with all there specialist kit and weapons could take 18 men on, even if they were battle hardened Taliban or mijohadeen there not urban combat specialist. They thought ambush style in the mountains shoot and scout style.
I watched restrepo last night highly recommend it gritty documentary
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Sean, was there any oil in the balklands? Sierra Leon?.....
Hence why seans point is null and void, yeah the yanks have lots of special forces mote than our whole army probably but the seals are a small elite unit. And their good not sas good but good, states has so many special forces due to the size of their army they've got Akita of young scared trigger happy uneducated lads and they rely on technical and firepower supremacy as opposed to having better soldiers. We have some of the best soldiers in the world.
I can perfectly believe an elite force specialising in in building fighting with all there specialist kit and weapons could take 18 men on, even if they were battle hardened Taliban or mijohadeen there not urban combat specialist. They thought ambush style in the mountains shoot and scout style.
I watched restrepo last night highly recommend it gritty documentary
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Anyway I think the BL death is a load of bollocks, until I see authentic pictures then I'm a non believer.
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