To butter or not? - Buttering

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Wideboy
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Post: # 61822Post Wideboy

We plan to use either slate or limestone for our patio as they are not as porous as sandstone do the backs need buttering to make them adhere better to bedding layer or is there an additive you can add to the mix to improve adhesion and do away with buttering the backs?Also what is the best ratio for the mortar I have seen suggested everything from 6to1 to 3to1 for slate your thoughts please guys.
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Post: # 61937Post London Stone Paving

Ian

1. With the limestone there is no need to butter the underside of the slabs. I would go for a 4 or 5 parts sharp sand to 1 part cement

2. Slate is a bit different. The slabs need to be buttered on the u/s with sbr/ cement slurry (I think thats correct. If not I will be corrected fairly quickly). I would also go for a slightly stronger mix of compo. 3 or 4 parts sharp sand to 1 part cement. Also make the mix a little bit wettter. Not too much just a bit beyond tacky.

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Post: # 61948Post GB_Groundworks

Yep A london says gets some sbr or syrup butane rubber acts as a bond intensiver or bond bridge and prime the back of your slabs, can also add it to your mix to make them stick like scheeeet
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Post: # 61958Post cookiewales

GB_Groundworks wrote:Yep A london says gets some sbr or syrup butane rubber acts as a bond intensiver or bond bridge and prime the back of your slabs, can also add it to your mix to make them stick like scheeeet
all the right answers there boyos :D
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Post: # 62250Post Turbina Magnum

When lads say 6:1, 3:1 etc they mean ratio of weight - I would like to see how people are weighting the sand and then cement :D
For limestone or granite patio I would just use 10 shovels of sand and half a bag of cement mixed.
If slabs are less then 40mm thick and you be using area quite havely, just buy a bag of white cement (5 euro) and mix in bucket pure cement with water to get it like glue and stick that on back of slab.
not expensive and good

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Post: # 62253Post London Stone Paving

Why are you talking in Euro's Turbina?

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Post: # 62258Post Turbina Magnum

thats currency I am used to :;):
but i`d say bag of white cement in london isn`t more than 5 pounds?
bit off topic :)

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Post: # 62270Post lutonlagerlout

London Stone Paving wrote:Why are you talking in Euro's Turbina?
plural of euro is euro steve
no such thing as euros :;):
turbina is from the emerald isle althouigh i thought he might be a spammer when i first saw that unusual name
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