When is a labourer not a labourer - Self explanatory

[GB_Groundworks]

Is that £60 after tax so like 80 a day with them paying your tax?

Not to bad, depends on your cutting ability are you just straight cutting or taper cutting working the cuts out your self or just avingthe dimension sung out to you and you cutting them.

But like a lot of labourers you seem to think you are above your station, quiting worst thing as you got to start off again from scratch.

I hate having to constantly tell lads to clean up, move that, do that etc lads that use their intitiavtive and keep busy. We work all day might pause for a tea coffee break for ten mins in morning and 20-30 at lunch if lucky but see some lads wanting an hour for lunch etc disappear titing about In the shops etc.

Where's a bouts in Cheshire are you?

[ken]

From 1996-1999 i worked for a firm on career focus scheme , 1 day a week at collage 4 days on site for £50 a week. Once completed i requested more responsibilities and got them as i proved i could run the job unsupervised. The money got better, but still only £120 a week, stuck at it for 3 years then set up on my own. At 22 years old i was confident at pricing up and undertaking my own jobs, but found it hard to get clients to accept my quotes due to my age/experience. My point being, if you think you’re worth more than what your earning, then have a crack at it you’re self.

[Suggers]

Welcome digahole - just have a quick look back to your posts, and then look at them from our position. I need trust - the most important - trust to take, and drive the new truck to collect - trust to be alone on site & make a quick intelligent decision where the sand should be dropped. Also I need trust with the financial stuff...

trust trust trust.......

[local patios and driveway]

walked off site? see ya... too many guys out there who wont bitch and moan for the money.

[Bob_A]

Not being in the trade I can see it from both sides.
When you said you walked did you do just that. Or did you have a sensible conversation with your boss., couldn't agree and then decide it was best that you both parted company.
If you just dropped tools and stormed out then you'll not get much sympathy
On the other hand we don't know what this boss is like, perhaps he's the chav type that doesn't reason with anyone, you know the arrogant greedy p1ss taking type that gives the rest of the trade a bad name?

I suppose it comes down to money.
I know it varies up and down the country but how much do the pro's on here pay their labourers who have some basic skills?
Like I say I'm not in the trade but I'll stick my kneck out and say a good labourer who keeps the job moving is worth more than £60.

[mickavalon]

I pay depending on age and experience, my youngest lad's 17 and on £35.00 a day, next guy's 22 semi skilled and on £65 and my next "skilled" guy's 24 and on £95, but they all get a bonus if the job's on time and in profit, I'm still looking for maybe another couple, but only Skilled Guys, as we start the young lad's on the basic Labouring and train them on, if they progress they move up the scale, if they don't they do but slower.
Ther's plenty of blokes out there able to just shift mix and dig, but to get recognition takes brains and perseverence

[lutonlagerlout]

Jeez.Only one or two can answer the question.Forums are all the same regardless of topic.Rimexboy,constructive comments not a strong point of yours then trollboy.

my labourer (apologies sean) takes home £360 for a 5.5 day week
he said last week "i have been with you over a year now?"
to which i replied "the back of you is the front of another"

in the current climate £75 top line is half decent money for mixing fetching etc,loads of brickies i know are working for £100-120 a shift now
money is important of course,but i would rather be happy than rich ,
saying that i have jacked jobs for a fiver a day more then regretted it later
from your posts you sound like quite a clever fella,I note with interest your correct use of grammar and punctuation
maybe you should be back in an office?
regards LLL

[Pablo]

Now now Tony. With regards wages I find that employers talk about gross and employee's talk about net take home pay. This causes most of the disagreements when it comes to them understanding how much they really earn.

[rimexboy]

Jeez.Only one or two can answer the question.Forums are all the same regardless of topic.Rimexboy,constructive comments not a strong point of yours then trollboy.

OH dear oh dear.... Jeez

[digaholefillitin]

Ha ha!Thanks for all the posts.I was never the type for shovel leaning,always finding something to do not places to skulk.I actually quit not over pay but another issue...boss is a greedy pikey who puts shoddy work in one week but has high standards the next.
Anyway maybe I will spot a few patios of my own :p

[lutonlagerlout]

my position with wages is if you dont like your salary ,make something happen
I.E. retrain,jack, learn on the job
the fella that works with us is a great grafter but his attention to detail is atrocious ,when i explained to him that he has more spending money than me he couldn't work it out
i get a fair chunk more than him but at present my outgoings every single week amount to £530, I'm not moaning but that is what it is
his outgoings are sleep on mates couch = free
stella and fags and occasional visits to his estranged son
I have given him opportunities to lay slabs and bricks but he is not really interested
the thing is anyone who wants more needs to MAKE it happen
if you say nothing and do nothing,then nothing will happen
have they rang you since you jacked?
cheers LLL