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Post: # 60322Post GB_Groundworks

doing a price for a new disabled parking space for nhs job we are on at mo, spec has 150mm long, 12mm steel dowels at 450 centres inserted into the gen 1 concrete then haunched over seems overkill to me, but anyone come across this spec before?

met the chief projector manager today as we are first on site scraping off etc, hes 12 companys higher up than me he deals with the nhs. we were laughing that my 1k price say by the time its gets to him is at like 15k

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Post: # 60324Post lutonlagerlout

i think the dowels are there only if you have a day joint,
I.E. if you lay the kerbs one day and haunch them the next
they serve no purpose if you lay and haunch in 1 go
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Post: # 60328Post Pablo

I occasionally do nhs work making gardens safe for autistic kids cms they're freakin escape artists. Anyway they spec the post holes at 750 square and 750mm deep for a 4 inch post and 6ft fence. Thats bloody crazy I never quote on that and just allow for a 300 Augered hole they Dont check and i would feel unethical if i did anything else. They either love wasting money or they employ idiots who like wasting it for them
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Post: # 60330Post msh paving

Dowels in a kerb line are quite common spec. persimmon homes have just done a new road with dowels like that hear in kings lynn,years ago i was on a road job DOT spec was dowels, i was posted on disc cutter and heap off rebar for 3 days cutting it into 300mm bits....what a job,you will probilly get away without using them but if it spec. include it MSH :)
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Post: # 60332Post GB_Groundworks

Spec says insert into plastic gen 1 Crete then haunch over the top so no mention of a day joint, I'll use them as no reason not to butseemed overkill in a filled kerb as well
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Post: # 60355Post henpecked

Kerb raise and haunch later?
Just to avoid slip joint I suppose. Usually they want long runs ready to be kerbed after the brickies have done. So this would make sense if it was the case, you sure its all in one go?

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Post: # 60357Post GB_Groundworks

its only 8m around a new disabled parking space think can handle that in a day ;) lol
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Post: # 60361Post henpecked

GB_Groundworks wrote:its only 8m around a new disabled parking space think can handle that in a day ;) lol
well I was going to say........ :D :laugh:

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Post: # 60362Post ilovesettsonmondays

its overkill , load of rollox .

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Post: # 60364Post henpecked

ilovesettsonmondays wrote:its overkill , load of rollox .
A dizzy bay isnt going to get much stick either, could understand it if it was and Island kerb, or something that would have the chance of a wagon over it, then again, they are putting hiabs on ambulances now so.......... :laugh:

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Post: # 60365Post pickwell paving

We've only used dowels on new housing estates where we lay the kerbs on the kerb race after all the building work etc has been done.
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Post: # 60367Post ilovesettsonmondays

i kerbed shaftesbury avenue , parts of regent street etc . mega traffic only bars we ever used , where the ones were they didnt mind working gear

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Post: # 60368Post GB_Groundworks

anyone know the going rate on tactile/blister paving? works out about £90 a metre to buy the stuff, know what it would cost me tolay it but wondered if there was a civils rate?
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Post: # 60370Post ilovesettsonmondays

all depends on whats going next to it .slabs ,tarmac??/

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Post: # 60371Post henpecked

GB_Groundworks wrote:anyone know the going rate on tactile/blister paving? works out about £90 a metre to buy the stuff, know what it would cost me tolay it but wondered if there was a civils rate?
Not sure but as I remember it would be a good price as its safety spec.

Reminds me of some clown who said 'we have loads of that (tactile) paving left, if you want it you can have it for £20'

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'Oh yeah. And what do I say to all the blind people coming up my path looking for the crossing ?'

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