Eon - Thieving barstwewards

[mickg]

has Tony installed an echo to the forum with a 23 hour delay

[lutonlagerlout]

honeywell CM927 works good for me
LLL

[Bob_A]

Anyone use those energy saving light bulbs?
OK for mood lighting but shite for normal use.
Even the so called brightess bulbs are not as powerful as a 40w traditional bulb.
Also they look stupid on open style light fitments

[lutonlagerlout]

I cant use them bob,make the place look like a morgue
however at 1 point i had 12 50 watt downlighters in the kitchen,plus undercupboard lights,extractor lights etc
as they have been blowing ( and the halogens do seem to blow rather qiuickly) i have been replacing them with LED downlighters,big difference between 50 watts per bulb and 1.5 watts
still crap light mind
LLL

[Al Jardin]

Energy efficient bulbs are fine in my opinion. The ones B&Q sell seem to be ok. Compact Florescent Lights (CFL) You do need to hide that ugly tube though. Bounce the light off a wall or diffuse it. Most now come with a opaque covering to soften the light source. Halogen bulbs must not be touched by skin. Something to do with the glass getting damaged which makes them blow.

[Al Jardin]

I've just ordered these to cover big holes made by R80 kitchen downlighters.
GU10 CFL
Converter plate

Al

[Bob_A]

Energy efficient bulbs are fine in my opinion. The ones B&Q sell seem to be ok. Compact Florescent Lights (CFL) You do need to hide that ugly tube though. Bounce the light off a wall or diffuse it. Most now come with a opaque covering to soften the light source. Halogen bulbs must not be touched by skin. Something to do with the glass getting damaged which makes them blow.

What ones from B&Q.
Any of these?
http://www.diy.com/diy....order=1

[Al Jardin]

They're the ones. I've bought the energy saving spirals - B&Q branded. 20w input gives 100w output. No complaints as yet. £9.98 for 4. Not nice to look at directly so you need a shade or reflect the light.

Al

[Bob_A]

Being a tight cornt I'd love to convert to energy efficient bulbs but the Osram ones I've tried have been useless.
Might be an age thing, the older you get the more light you need?
Taking aside that they won't work with my light dimmers I hope that one day I'll found some to meet my needs.
I'd like to replace the 3x 60watt R80's in the kitchen with these but would hate to spend nearly £30 and be disappointed.
http://www.diy.com/diy....h=false

[cookiewales]

Jeez LLL, £160/mth DD for gas and spark?? That mansion of yours is proving £££ to run isn't it!

3 Bed semi here, £60/mth gas and roughly the same for electricty with British Gas and EDF respectively.

hi dave i use a bosstherm wireless model bps242rf top class put it where you want does the lot think i paid 160 ish

[Mikee]

Happy New Year to one and all.
I'm with Eon, online duel-fuel monthly DD like you L. I think you've been unlucky with them. I get requests to supply a reading and tend to fire them in once a month anyway so I can keep an eye on usage on their website.
Just had a thought, When I switched to Eon I think I had to set up an account myself.

Regarding DD, they all seem to start out with a lower figure to get your business and then push it up when you owe them.
My payments this year (2-bed semi Bungalow Cavity wall insulation, 11 inch Loft insulation, Double glazing and some low energy bulbs. Jan to June £130 per month. £180 refund as overpayed. July to Sept. £88 per month. Oct onwards £108per month.
Regarding tariffs. its confusion central, they all do it and i can only think its to make it harder for you to compare one with another. Anyroad what I do is this; get meter readings from last 12 months and a calculator and work it out. You can then see whether the tariff is more or less expensive than your current one.
Energy saving bulbs, the room that I'm typing this in is lit by a 16watt es bulb,(equiv. 75w.) Phillips, looks like an ordinary bulb £2.50 Homebase. One second delay when you switch on full brightness in about 10 seconds or so.
I've also got three 4watt LEDs in the soffit of the garage, they shine down the white wall, illuminate the path and the reflected light from the wall lights the lawn and the fence 9 metres away
Anyway L I hope you get sorted, as I said Eon have been ok for me.

[Dave_L]

Anyway.....I'm off to snare meself one of them new-fangled programmers tommorrow, everyone else has said good things about the Honeywell 927 so thats what I'm getting.

Even sussed out how to wire the thing in, too!

[lutonlagerlout]

i went to another house i maintain today and there are 4 letters there from eon saying they cannot read the meter
why would they want to read a key meter?
the one they fitted 18 months ago
donuts
thing is they have us by the bollocks and they know it,food warmth and shelter are prerequisite for human life,you might get away with no gas but you would be hard to live without leccy
LLL

[Suggers]

This is all true.... I still think there is a case for re-nationalisation - or is the the idea far too late & forget it ?

[Dave_L]

Fitted my CH programmer thingy yesterday, thanks for the reccomendation LLL