Update on drainage

[seanandruby]

Thanks. The ones with the scaffolding and timesaver pipes was 2,500 metres pour, started 4am saturday morning and finished 24 hours later. It was a base pour for a multi story. The ensign piping encased in rebar pours are 1000 metres on average and we have 72 of those to do, we're half way there just on programme.

[rab1]

Sean are you on the LOR bounus system payment terms, 1min late your better off not going?, we`re next.

[seanandruby]

Yes Rab. i clocked out 4 mins' early one night because my ma-in-law was rushed to hospital, next pay day i was £120 down. I lost bonus, half an hour and my weekend lodge. I get to work now an hour early to avoid traffic, or any other delays that could occur. If i am going to be late now i take my time and straight away when i get to work fill in a leave of absence form for the time i'm late, which is not very often, you can set your clock by me. It's change into work gear first then arora, at final bell it's arora first then change, no perks any more mate, no double bubble etc on weekends, so i don't do Saturdays anymore.

[lutonlagerlout]

its a shame the way time and motion on big firms has gone
if we hit heavy traffic then 5-10 minutes late is part of life,although sometimes we might work 10-30 minutes extra to finish a mix or a course ,so it evens out in the end
i have worked on jobs with hooters and i hated it
LLL

[Tony McC]

I always said that we started when we got there and we finished when we'd done. That was generally 8am to 5pm but never actually bang on 8am to precisely 5pm.

My owld feller always worked on the principle of it was how much you got done, not how long you spent getting it done. He'd get more kerbs or flags laid in a 6 hour shift than many would in 10 hours. When he'd made a decent wage, he'd go home.

[seanandruby]

The last time i did those sort of hours was at school. My day can easily go into 12/14/ 16 hours.

[rab1]

When I first started working. You would beast in and rattle the job getting the site agent on your side and then have a few fliers, long lunches and weekends were always job and knock. If we had a bad day we would work our hours but if we did well, we would be off site early.
Example: 400hrs priced in a DRG, we would do it in 300 and fanny about with 50hrs and the firm saved 50hrs.

Now we start at 7.30, half hour lunch and finish a 4 sharp and they wonder why their making less money. ???

[henpecked]

When I first started working. You would beast in and rattle the job getting the site agent on your side and then have a few fliers, long lunches and weekends were always job and knock. If we had a bad day we would work our hours but if we did well, we would be off site early.
Example: 400hrs priced in a DRG, we would do it in 300 and fanny about with 50hrs and the firm saved 50hrs.

Now we start at 7.30, half hour lunch and finish a 4 sharp and they wonder why their making less money. ???

Yep , groundwork is very hard to quantify. Get a good gang and they will know they have to work on a price or it wont pay.
saw loads of firms overloaded with vans, tools gangs on day rates in the boom. Just looking at what meat was in the job, you knew the firm must have a creative QS or was on the way to bankruptcy.

[seanandruby]

I think it is different on a construction site as opposed to a house building project.Everything is booked in and usually works around the cranes, i can wait hours for a two minute lift of pipes etc. When you have a upwards of 50 men getting one pour ready for concrete you are up against it and even going for a piss is classed a time wasting. I had to work over for two hours on the eve of my last pour to get a air test on, the clients decided they wanted to witness it and someone had loosened an end cap. When you have 30 or more pipes bunged, it takes some time to find the leak. Designs change by the hour and then rush to put it right. They give you men who are'nt trained and expect the same work load, even the tools they get are shite, i've gone through 4 ratchet spanners in as many months. Every second is on the clock and they want you there from bell to bell and over, never under.