Sub base - Poor type 1?

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seanandruby
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Post: # 49519Post seanandruby

tuulip wrote:Thanks good idea.

Did you think the load looked dodgey?

Tuula x
The first picture looks ok but the second close up shows it to be pure shite. Well done getting it reversed :;):
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Post: # 49543Post irishpaving

I got the feeling this was a cheap load of type one though ???
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tuulip
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Post: # 49546Post tuulip

Hi Irish

Whats cheap fpr a 20T load then?

T
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Post: # 49548Post irishpaving

Between 100-200 quid
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Post: # 49550Post tuulip

Well I paid more than that and I didnt ask for a "cheap load".

I know the saying - you get what you pay for but I was explicit in my needs and expectations.
The price was the same as the other quotes I got except he said he would take away 2 grabs of rubble I had.
Yeah right - he didn't, but I didn't pick them because they were the cheapest.
They are a big outfit round here and I though the more professional option is all,

I read up on this website, told them what I wanted and what it was for and they gave me a price, for what they said would do the job.

What i did say was "this is what I'm doing, I want Type 1 crushed concrete or scalps, whatever is the cheaper option that will do the job".

I wasn't trying to be cheap and cut corners.

The last house we built we bought for 340K and sold for just under £900.
I was the buyer for material and hire so I do know the ropes which is why I questioned what I got.

I'm not a hairdresser, I'm an engineer by training so not a complete ditz.
I know the saying - you get what you paid for but I was explicit in my needs and expectations.
The price was the same as the other quotes I got except he said he would take away 2 grabs of rubble I had.
Yeah right - he didn't, but I didn't pick them because the were the cheapest.
They are a big outfit round here and I though the more professional option is all,

T
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Post: # 49553Post rab1

what you have to watch for tulip is that the bigger firms can/are very sloppy in their dealings with one off customers. :O
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irishpaving
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Post: # 49555Post irishpaving

ok...geez... you asked for scalpings-crush and thats what you got. No point losing the temper over one load of stone, if your making that much profit what you moaning about ffs
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tuulip
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Post: # 49558Post tuulip

Sean - thanks for your reassurance x

Rab - thanks , spot on I think, they re supplying SB for local road works and if all you are doing is making up your level this is fine. x

IP - to quote my 13 year old girl WTF??
You are missing the point - or two many beers down. I asked for what was recommended, from this site, he agreed it would do the job, then turned up and said it wouldn't.

Profit - what are you talking about - I was just a one off customer, getting sub base for their drive way, Im not a reseller??...
tuulip

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Post: # 49567Post lutonlagerlout

Profit - what are you talking about - I was just a one off customer, getting sub base for their drive way, Im not a reseller??...

i Think irish paving was talking about the 560 grand profit you made on your last house :)

CGT FTW eh?
and as your daughter so correctly says ROFLMAOCAKEOMG
LLL :;):
PS you did the right thing,that stuff was rubbish




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Post: # 49574Post irishpaving

Well excuse for drinking heavily on a Saturday night and talking a load of cackle but I was trying to live up to my name..

Sorry Tulip I wasn't been an azz...no I was...after effects

I only use limestone me self and don't really opt for anything else. Again sorry for any offence
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Post: # 49576Post lutonlagerlout

you and me both colm
polluted springs to mind
LLL
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Post: # 49578Post seanandruby

.........Irish, your only being nice now because you know twolips has a few bob :;): :) A lady who knows how to handle a man, also got you weighed up lol. Well done T :laugh:
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Post: # 49585Post Bob_A

Hello Tuulips.
You asked for top quality Type1 and paid top money.
But the supplier tried to get one over you and give you rubbish.
I don't care how big the supplier is in my mind they are cowboys and a disgace to the industry.
An industry that many of the people on here belong to and work hard to promote as a good industry.
Well done for getting them to take it back. You must be a very persuasive person. Seriously well done.

How much for proper type1?
It's unlikely it will be limestone but a proper spec Type1 within the M25 is about £25-35/ton depending on the quantity that you buy. I'm not in the trade but expect account customers would get better prices.

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Post: # 49587Post GB_Groundworks

sorry but you ask for crushed concrete scalpings you are not asking for top quality type 1

scalpings are either the bit between the overburden and the stone (soil and organic matter etc in it) or the scrapings up from the quarry floor again contaminated.

i can't find any reference on the the main page sub base page referring to scalpings, there is a bit on 50mm crusher run and a description of its weaknesses compared to type 1

you ask for MOT type 1 per 803 clause and you get top quality product.

that load looked ok for scalpings, seemed a high organic fines content

and reading what she said she bought the house for 340k and sold it for £900 i make that a 339910 loss :p :D




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Post: # 49589Post Bob_A

I think that is where the confusion is (well for me anyway)
He asked for type 1, crushed concrete.
I would of thought that was crushed concrete 35mm to dust with all the particles inbetween conforming to type1.
I guess the original poster thought the same.

Well I've learnt something. Make sure you ask for it to comply with clause 803 and make sure it says so on the receipt.

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