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Hi,
I have a PIC drive(in red) and patio(in biscuit colour) which is about 5 years old.I have used a sealant with added rhino grip
twice.The colour has faded quite a bit and my question is,can a colour additive be mixed with the sealant to bring back a decent colour,or any other suggestions would be welcome.
I have a PIC drive(in red) and patio(in biscuit colour) which is about 5 years old.I have used a sealant with added rhino grip
twice.The colour has faded quite a bit and my question is,can a colour additive be mixed with the sealant to bring back a decent colour,or any other suggestions would be welcome.
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Very often the apparent loss of colour is simply due to wear of the sealer - as it becomes more and more scratched and ultimately starts to wear off (it is on the surface of the paving so acts as a wearing course) it's ability to reflect light diminishes as to our eye it appears that the colour is actually fading.
If the colour appears to be OK when the drive is wet then a new coat of sealer is required.
Have a look under drive cleaning and sealing in Google for your area or call a company such as Adseal (www.advancedsealingsolutions.co.uk) or PICS (www.picuk.com) for a recommendation of someone who can do the work.
If the colour appears to be OK when the drive is wet then a new coat of sealer is required.
Have a look under drive cleaning and sealing in Google for your area or call a company such as Adseal (www.advancedsealingsolutions.co.uk) or PICS (www.picuk.com) for a recommendation of someone who can do the work.
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You're right LLL, the general standard is better in the USA but I'm excepting places like Vegas from that simply because of the money that's been spent on it there.
I have seen some good work in the UK but also some pretty horrible stuff. It's not the materials themselves, perhaps one reason is that you have the advantage there of being able to draw from a large pool of labour that are already qualified concrete finishers.
It would be argued here, also fairly, that the sheer volume of concrete they use for general paving compared to the UK facillitates this - a valid point.
To be honest it's a bloody hard thing to do well - of course so is block paving and stone laying for example, but I've done them all and PIC is the hardest - you don't have the same pressure on pre-cast materials - the concrete imprinting is a one-off chance, bugger it up and it's out with the Kango!
I have seen some good work in the UK but also some pretty horrible stuff. It's not the materials themselves, perhaps one reason is that you have the advantage there of being able to draw from a large pool of labour that are already qualified concrete finishers.
It would be argued here, also fairly, that the sheer volume of concrete they use for general paving compared to the UK facillitates this - a valid point.
To be honest it's a bloody hard thing to do well - of course so is block paving and stone laying for example, but I've done them all and PIC is the hardest - you don't have the same pressure on pre-cast materials - the concrete imprinting is a one-off chance, bugger it up and it's out with the Kango!
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Too many of the problems associated with PIC are self-inflicted. I've mentioned previously that back when I was serving my time, a concrete finisher was expected to serve a 3 year apprenticeship. Concrete is a strange mistress and its not something you can come to understand overnight.
So why do people believe that a half- or one-day "training course" where they imprint a metre or two of concrete renders them technically competent to install PIC? Compare that to the training that's done in the US, where there are week-long intensive courses followed-up by regular 'refresher' and 'improver' courses, that are considered by the trade to be essential. In this country, the only time we undertake training is when it's mandatory: over there, it's seen as the only way to stay ahead of your competitors.
The number of jobs I've seen where the "contractor" is completely out of their depth is shocking, but they are quite happy to take money from customers, and then become aggressive when the shortcomings of their work are pointed out to them.
Done properly, PIC is a wonderful surface and the possibilities really are limited only by your imagination, but too many of those installing it are sorely lacking in genuine skills.
So why do people believe that a half- or one-day "training course" where they imprint a metre or two of concrete renders them technically competent to install PIC? Compare that to the training that's done in the US, where there are week-long intensive courses followed-up by regular 'refresher' and 'improver' courses, that are considered by the trade to be essential. In this country, the only time we undertake training is when it's mandatory: over there, it's seen as the only way to stay ahead of your competitors.
The number of jobs I've seen where the "contractor" is completely out of their depth is shocking, but they are quite happy to take money from customers, and then become aggressive when the shortcomings of their work are pointed out to them.
Done properly, PIC is a wonderful surface and the possibilities really are limited only by your imagination, but too many of those installing it are sorely lacking in genuine skills.
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Guest wrote:Have a look under drive cleaning and sealing in Google for your area or call a company such as Adseal (www.advancedsealingsolutions.co.uk) or PICS (www.picuk.com) for a recommendation of someone who can do the work.
Unfortunately, the PICS website appears to be invalid now with the domain name up for sale. The Adseal one, however, is very informative.
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Try this one for PIC
www.picsuk.com
www.picsuk.com
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