Day rate with machines???

[GB_Groundworks]

so i was chatting to some brickies today on a job and they where saying the guy who did their groundworks charged them £300 a day for him and machine and then everything else on top. he hires in all his 3 ton.

so when i'm pricing jobs i price myself at £200 a day under 5 ton and £250 a day upto 13ton. we have all our own machines, dumpers, rollers, wagons etc and generally might use a few bits of plant in a day say.

so am i too cheap or is he to expensive, he's knda of my local competition but he only does footing and drainage and then leaves the site.

£250 is looking like a better rate to use.

giles

[bobbi o]

6 wheel tipper £40 per hr or £400 a day, 8 wheeler-£430
ped roller per day-£50
jcb 3cx with operator,fuel, travel to site-£400 per day
labour-inc van and tools £160-£200 per day per man

thats my top line rates and a basis for all pricing.not cheap but neithers being in business.

should add i put my margin on top of that!

[Pablo]

GB it's all relative to where you are and what people are prepared to pay and what kind of profit you make. I would say that for N/Ireland those rates would be what agri contractors would charge and add another £50-£100 for proper groundworkers. Do your rates include transport /fuel and setup costs or is that an extra. Also most people would charge more for a single days contracting than they would if they were on site for a week or more. Your cost of living and average wage are higher than here also. Not a nice time to be upping your rates maybe try it out on any new business first and then phase it in in stages with your regulars. I did that a while a go and offered them a discount on the new rate if they booked work in before a certain date. It generated a lot of work and gave me a good buffer to get new clients on board.

[GB_Groundworks]

fuel included, not transport

its what i use to work out my quotes for my time minus any other costs, no margin and no other costs etc. say a drive might take 5 days to scape off, re stone, roll and then get bitmac down so i work out that i'll be there 5 days with machine so that'll be £1000 for me to start with then,+ 2 guys, +materials etc

i guess i'm cheap as i am using all our own plant, dad runs a construction company building houses so we have loads of gear knocking around when its not on his sites.

looking at what bobbi says then for say 7 ton which is same as our 3cx looking more like 400 a day. as i can shift a lot of muck using that on a full day.

especially when my organising the job, setting out, fronting for materials etc well yeah basically doing everything.

phasing it in on new jobs its a good idea and reward existing customers with a better rate.

[lutonlagerlout]

our digger fella charges us £300 per day for him and the 3 tonne takeuchi inclusive
he can shift about3-4 grab lorryfulls in a day so its well worth it
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