Pumping floodwater uphill to drains - Sumps, pumps and back entry gullys
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Hi,
My front garden floods like a goodun at the first hint of rain as it is clay, lower than the neighbours and road and back garden. This results in a flooded garden and drive.
I need to add drainage however the drains are around the back and are only inches deep so I am unable to get any fall from the front to the back.
I, however, have a cunning plan....
I was thinking of digging a sump, using something like a plastic IC, running some land drains into it from the worst affected areas, installing a sump pump on a float switch. Then having the outlet pumped uphill to the back and connecting it into a back-inlet gully which I would install in place of a standard yard gully. I would install the pump above the base so as to avoid silt.
Can anyone see any problems with this, legal, waterboard or otherwise? It seems like an excellent solution in my mind anyway
Thanks
My front garden floods like a goodun at the first hint of rain as it is clay, lower than the neighbours and road and back garden. This results in a flooded garden and drive.
I need to add drainage however the drains are around the back and are only inches deep so I am unable to get any fall from the front to the back.
I, however, have a cunning plan....
I was thinking of digging a sump, using something like a plastic IC, running some land drains into it from the worst affected areas, installing a sump pump on a float switch. Then having the outlet pumped uphill to the back and connecting it into a back-inlet gully which I would install in place of a standard yard gully. I would install the pump above the base so as to avoid silt.
Can anyone see any problems with this, legal, waterboard or otherwise? It seems like an excellent solution in my mind anyway
Thanks
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As Sean says - your plan sounds over-complicated!
Sump pump and float switches - are often just a source of irritation when they fail or trip out for some reasons!
Sump pump and float switches - are often just a source of irritation when they fail or trip out for some reasons!
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If i laid drainage round to the back it would have to run uphill! The drains in the back are literally inches below the surface. in the IC, the pipes entering the IC have the IC lid resting on them.
The drain gets deeper as it runs away from the house but I would have to dig a trench across numerous gardens to meet up with it. I also cant make a new connection to the main sewer out front as there isnt one there!
Thanks for replying
The drain gets deeper as it runs away from the house but I would have to dig a trench across numerous gardens to meet up with it. I also cant make a new connection to the main sewer out front as there isnt one there!
Thanks for replying
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Sounds like a plan Johno.
As long as you a pumping into a storm water system you will be OK, if its combined storm and foul you should speak to building control or your local water authority but thats up to you. If its just a foul system then its a non-starter.
Install a good sized chamber so the pump doesn`t have to work flat out to often, keep the pump raised from the base so that the silt settles and can be cleaned out.
Always a good idea to get a spark to do the dangerous bit, installing some kind of circuit breaker in the process.
As long as you a pumping into a storm water system you will be OK, if its combined storm and foul you should speak to building control or your local water authority but thats up to you. If its just a foul system then its a non-starter.
Install a good sized chamber so the pump doesn`t have to work flat out to often, keep the pump raised from the base so that the silt settles and can be cleaned out.
Always a good idea to get a spark to do the dangerous bit, installing some kind of circuit breaker in the process.
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Thanks , its a combined foul and storm sewer, I suspect the water board will not allow me to connect so i probably wont ask
Just need to find a suitable container, I was thinking of a plastic IC but I would have to fashion connections at a higher level and it seems a bit bodgified now.
Goes without saying that the sump pump would have its own circuit protected by a RCBO.
Thanks for the advice
Just need to find a suitable container, I was thinking of a plastic IC but I would have to fashion connections at a higher level and it seems a bit bodgified now.
Goes without saying that the sump pump would have its own circuit protected by a RCBO.
Thanks for the advice
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hi i came across the problem.someone had installed a septic tank too low and the over flow was below the water table. i made a chamber out of small concrete manhole sectcions about 450mm by 600mm 300 deep. i put a pump in like you want to. this was 6 years ago , the customer has had no probs yeti i used plastic waste pipe 40mm and glued the joints. good look diggerjones
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Can you not just dump a load of concrete into the bottom of the hole, form it to level and then plop a couple of Milton rings in?
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Along the lines of this....
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B&Q sell a Marley Deep Inspection Chamber Riser which is 450mm wide and 450mm high and you can join them together. I've just bought a couple to make a small soakaway (going to drill holes in the sides and wrap in geotextile.)
Marley Deep Inspection Chamber Riser
Marley Deep Inspection Chamber Riser