Strange rust marks on indian stone - Markings keep apperaring- very confusing

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We laid this patio approx. 1 month ago, after approx. 2 weeks these marks were noticed on 3 flags. It looks like rust, and after reading this site I came to the conclusion that perhaps something had been spilt on the flags (with acid content) and it was reacting with metals in the stone.
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However the second picture shows new markings that have just appeared too. We haven't used any acid on the stone and the markings are appearing on lots of different flags now.

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We were going to change the first 3 flags but the problem is happening on other flags now on this job, so i'm wondering if anyone has encountered this before. Intially the markings were all on the same coloured flags but its now happening on other shades of the stone too.
We have laid thousands of india stone flags and never had this issue before. I'm desperatly hoping for some advice as our customer is understandably annoyed but we don't want to keep lifting flags only for the problem to continue. Cheers.

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Post: # 27310Post Pablo

Have you or the client spread any fertiliser recently?.
Can't see it from my house

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Post: # 27312Post warnergrounds.co.uk

Excuse the girlie comment but it looks like there is the same colouration on the jointing. That would suggest its something to do with the sub grade rather than the slabs?!?!?!

Come on boys you all wanna tell me I'm wrong.....

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Post: # 27313Post MRA

Could potentially be the iron ore content with the sandstone reacting due to its exposure to the elements. Well, it has been sited within the stone for 1000's of years with no exposure to chemical reaction until it was quarried.

Hey, it's natural. People are supposed to love natural these days!

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warnergrounds.co.uk wrote:Excuse the girlie comment but it looks like there is the same colouration on the jointing. That would suggest its something to do with the sub grade rather than the slabs?!?!?!

Come on boys you all wanna tell me I'm wrong.....

[awaiting lots of giggling from you lot]

Lar

the colouring has run into the grouting- its deffinitly comming from the flags

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Post: # 27315Post matsfc

Pablo wrote:Have you or the client spread any fertiliser recently?.
saw her gardener today but didn't ask that, but i doubt it as its just lawn next to patio

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Post: # 27333Post Pablo

I was talking about lawn fertiliser. The reason I ask is that I have seen fertiliser make marks exactly like these all the time. The staining is nothing to do with the flags as the stains also originate in the pointing.
Can't see it from my house

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Post: # 27363Post lutonlagerlout

iron deposits in the stone,natural look
what did you point it with? looks a bit ragged for a month old?
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Post: # 27370Post Dave_L

Hell that looks horrible - but how can it be deposits in the stone when the pointing is now 'contaminated'?

Fertiliser looks to be the favourite culprit.
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Post: # 27380Post seanandruby

They are too round and uniform to be in the stone. Looks like drops of liquid, or somethig rusting.
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Post: # 27381Post Dave_L

The result of somebody doing some metal grinding nearby?
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Post: # 27402Post lutonlagerlout

the neighbours havent recently sprayed their fence with one of those pump gizmos have they?
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Big circle - tin, small circle - lid, small marks - splash from brush or similar, run from slab to grout - liquid something.
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Post: # 27885Post matsfc

well its a mystery, can't pinpoint it to any external thing so just going to have to put it down to metal comming out of the stone and change it (it was a very random batch of stone), customer denies any other stuff so i guess its a case of try and break even and keep customer happy- damn i wish marsalls did india stone this cheap- they would have paid for us to re-do it lol

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