Children & plant

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mikeadelic
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Post: # 24631Post mikeadelic

This might come across a tad strange & to some a little worrying (health & safety) but there is a reason for this.
I am in the process of turning my garden into a driveway, I have decided to take this task on myself (apart from the tarmacing!!) any way I have hired a 3 tonne machine to remove all spoil & level with a gradient, the last time I played with a machine was some 10 years ago so I have been practising much to my neighbours fun, my 11 year old daughter has been watching out the window like a person possessed & constantly asking to have a play. I have up till today said no but I let her have ago today, well after about 1 hour she was levelling out the ground & mastered/understood all the levers. I believe this is due to the computer console age where the kids use the joysticks & these become part of them.

Any thoughts apart from using child labour!!

Mike

dig dug dan
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Post: # 24633Post dig dug dan

there are so many rules and regulations affecting us professionals, that just don't apply to the lay man.
for example, i cannot legally use a chainsaw without a competance certificate, yet you could walk into a hire shop and hire one with no problem.
I can't buy a top handled chainsaw without thhis certificate either.

Personally, its every childs dream to have a go on a machine like this, and providing she wears the seatbelt, and you carefully supervise, then i don't see it as a problem.

Check your hire agreement first though. they may have a clause about an age limit or something
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DeckmanAdam
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Post: # 24634Post DeckmanAdam

I definatly can see where you are coming from letting her have a go as i would of probably done the same( i have young spectators sometimes when im working and enjoy explaining what im doing etc).
However i think some people would have a different view and health and safety wise not sure really? If she caused some sort of accident to person or damage?
I think consoles and technology would also help or maybe shes born a natural. :)

Stuarty
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Post: # 24635Post Stuarty

Ive grown up on farms, driving tractors and the likes from a very early age. As Dan says, the layman can get away with much more than the professionals can.

Just gotta know where your services run, and where you stand :p


And most hire companies have an age limit related clause. One of my local hire shops have a clause where nobody under the age of 25 can operate anything with an engine - whether it be a stihl saw, digger or even a wacker.

Ofcourse i dont operate any of their kit seeing as im not 25 yet ;)

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Post: # 24636Post Dave_L

I can't wait for my son to jump in a digger and start pulling on those levers!
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Post: # 24637Post James.Q

my 3 year old my 7 and 14 all had a go at my 1.5 jcb under daddys strict instructions amazing how good they were compared to brainless young lads on site. sorry to say sold digger kids want it back; there all two years older now and still remember. HnS assume age but good instruction matters more not age: :)
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Stuarty
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Post: # 24639Post Stuarty

We aint all brainless ta :)

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Post: # 24643Post James.Q

:blush:
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J.D
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Post: # 24680Post J.D

Me and the Lovely newer model misses have 5 boys between us aged from 12 to 5 . They are all mad to come to work with dad. I find on at saturday morning the eldest two under the right supervision and given the right jobs , are more use than a 16/17 year old lad that has just found out lager and what to do with that thing in his pants!
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Post: # 24684Post eazybarra man

JD, your kids would love an eazybarra, they could move flags all day for you,and it would save you lifting them

Stuarty
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Post: # 24685Post Stuarty

any chance to get a pitch in eh ? lol

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Post: # 24690Post lutonlagerlout

my old fella used to take me and my brother in saturdays from the age of 5 and 6
he would crane a pack of bricks on the scaffold and we would load out 2 at a time
end of the day he hit the horse chesnut tree with a pack of bricks and told us to fill our pockets with *free* conkers
we were absolutely made up with 100 conkers each :D
elfin safety would slaughter him nowdays
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matt h
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Post: # 24692Post matt h

Remember that post some time back about a three year old in a digger... Proved a point close supervision is the key, and as far as i am concerned in a safe environment kids should be allowed to have a go. We did and we aint turned out so bad... well... most of us:D Kids can even have a go at driving cars at one of our local military bases when they have open days, so why not plant?
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Post: # 24713Post Tony McC

The eejit son and heir has been driving mini-diggers from age 2½, was driving a DeMag crane and an O&K RH4 at age 6, and a JCB Sitemaster at 8.

He's 21 now and you'd need an X-Ray to find any work in him. He's the laziest little fecker this side of the river Ribble!

Somewhere in this tip of a study, I have a pic of him driving a mini-digger on his 3rd birthday (he thought I'd bought the digger just for him!!) but I can't find it just at the moment. Here he is, age 8 driving the Bomag AD90 on one of our road schemes. Happy days, when he used to listen to what i had to say, and you could get him out of bed before lunchtime!

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Post: # 24775Post flowjoe

"By the time a man realises that maybe his father was right, he usually has a son who thinks he's wrong." Charles Wadworth :(
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