Muck wagons / grabbers - What is best?

[Dannyboy]

Hey All,

Thought i'd run this by to see if I could get some advice. I have quite a lot of muck that I need to shift. I was wondering what is a resonable price to pay for a muck wagon with a grabber on it to pick it up ? I've been quoted 160 for Birmingham. I have quite a few loads to go probabily about 10/15 is that a good price ? Any comments would be appriciated.

Cheers,

[Dave_L]

10 to 15 full loads???

That's gonna be costly.

[lutonlagerlout]

depends how much they are gonna take dan
the guy we use charges £200 but he has an 8 wheeler and i would say he gets 12m3 on
some lads do it for £150 but they have 6 wheelers that probably only take 8m3
best to ask for a price for the lot or they may start the old {1-2 add a few routine}
cheers LLL

[Rich H]

Bloke I use takes 15t for £190. There are cheaper about but this fella comes exactly when you need him.

[Tony McC]

I'd think that a standard 8-wheeler plus a JCB or similar to load would work out a cheaper.

Actually, for 10-15 loads, I'd have at least a couple of wagoins, as the drivers are never in any great rush and getting them to do more than about 5 loads to tip in a day is well nigh impossible.

Get a day-rate price for a wagon, plus a loader of some description, plus tipping fees. I reckon it has to work out cheaper (and quicker) than a grab wagon.

[lutonlagerlout]

it doesnt really work like that "darn sarf" guv.
the guy we use JH starts at 5.30 and works till he can, and he is very nifty with his grab,he can grab off off turf without wrecking it
no local tips here either most muck has to go at least 15 miles,we find it best to get the digger man and the muck man to work a price out between them, i have never heard of anyone getting a "day rate " price for a muck lorry down here
so the digger man and his 3 tonner takeuchi is £300 a day and between him and the other fella they can dig and fill approx 5 big loads,loading alone would be quicker i should imagine
main thing is ,get a firm price for the lot,if ppl start estimating it is always at the upper end of the estimate
cheers LLL

[Dave_L]

£350/day (+VAT) for an 8 legger with driver down here. Usually get 9 loads/day out of him, represents good value. £2/t tipping fees.

[Tony McC]

320 quid per day around here, but 9 loads a day??? The best I've ever had is 6 loads, but that's because the landfill site operates a stupid 7:30am to 4pm opening hours policy. If you've access to a waste transfer station that's open all hours, then you're laughing!

Not sure about landfill fees , but I've a feeling it was 50 quid per load for an 8w. Assuming 6 loads per day, that's 120T, and on big muck shifts we'd always use at least two, usually 3 or 4 wagons - let's go with 3.

So that's 3 wagons at 320 quid = 960 quid
Add 3 x 6 loads @ 50 quid = 900 quid
Add JCB/Loading shovel = 250 quid
Add Banksman = 100 quid

T O T A L = 2,210 quid for 360T

...equivalent to just over 6 quid per tonne

Rich H was quoting 190 quid for 15T, which is a whopping 12.67 per tonne, twice as much, but obviously a much smaller scale.

[Rich H]

Most I ever had out of a job was 4 loads! 1-2 is usually enough for my projects...

[Dave_L]

320 quid per day around here, but 9 loads a day???

Yep, local landfill site is now capping off and is only a 6 mile return trip to site. Easy access to the capping area too.

It was a 6.30am KO, though.

[Dannyboy]

Hey Everyone,

Thanks for the advice. I think I'll look into hiring the wagon & Driver for the day as I think were not that far away from the tip.

[lutonlagerlout]

£350/day (+VAT) for an 8 legger with driver down here. Usually get 9 loads/day out of him, represents good value. £2/t tipping fees.

£2 a tonne ,jeez thats cheap
my local waste transfer station charges £50 a tonne (for rubbish admittedly)
LLL

[Rich H]

They don't even take tarmac any more here. Just 'clean' soil and hardcore.

[Dave_L]

They don't even take tarmac any more here. Just 'clean' soil and hardcore.

I should point out that was £2/t for clean excavated soil, no concrete, vegetation or tarmac.