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TrevorL
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Post: # 21920Post TrevorL

I need some advice about protecting a tarmac pavement from a delivery lorry.
Last year I had a delivery of premixed concrete and the lorry damaged the footpath running along the side of the house when it drove over it. The Highways dept initially asked me to have it repaired but then – I think – claimed off the company who delivered the concrete.
Now I need 8 tons of type 1 delivered and I think if the path gets damaged again, the Highways dept won’t be very happy!
The path is about 1.5m wide + a grass verge. My initial thought was to buy some 50mm x 230mm x 5m planks and lay them side by side along the length of the path, so that the lorry will cross them at right angles. Do you think this will be strong enough for the 8 tons + the weight of the lorry?
The alternative is to hire steel road plates – too heavy to manoeuvre by hand – or the plastic equivalent http://www.gttrax.co.uk/HeavyLoads-36
The path will need protecting again when I have the concrete for the floor slab delivered. There would be two deliveries, as I intend to lay the slab in two halves because it is 5.52m x 4.84m and will only have my son-in-law to help me
I hope some of you knowledgeable people can help me here.
Many thanks
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Post: # 21923Post Dave_L

Is the footpath of a serviceable condition? All backedgers present and undamaged?

We reguarly our traffic trucks 11t+ over footpaths with no ill-effects.

Steel road plate would be the strongest bet, but a sheet of ply would be OK I would have thought.

A lot of it comes down to the skill of the driver and his banksman.
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TrevorL
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Post: # 21929Post TrevorL

Thanks for your reply Dave,
Yes, the footpath is in good condition. It's the area that was repaired last year after the readymix lorry damaged it.
I suspect that the footpath wasn't in terrific condition before it got damaged though! The grass verge showed no sign of damage from the lorry but the path had some deep impressions in it. It had been dug up lots of times for cables etc.
The suggestion of the plywood was good - thank you.

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Post: # 21938Post lutonlagerlout

we use sterling board if the pavement looks dodge,main problem is that cabletell ripped up every pavement in luton about 10 years ago and when the gangs replaced them they didnt do it right
(my mate was on it and they were getting summat like £6 a lineal metre to rip out install cable and make good) so their gang of 3 had to try and to try and do 50 M a day to make it pay
and the every pavement is bollixed now,
if its that bad i would tip on the road and barrow it in,2 blokes would barrow 8 tonne in a morning no probs
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Post: # 22012Post Tony McC

The planks with a decking sheet (18mm ply) over the top should be adequate for just 8T, I'd have thought.
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Post: # 22029Post Dave_L

lutonlagerlout wrote:2 blokes would barrow 8 tonne in a morning no probs
That's taking it easy Tony!

One of our lads barrowed 20.4t of tarmac into us on Friday morning, good job it was on a downhill section. Lad did well.

Started laying at 9.30am, 220m2 and home for 1.30pm :p
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Post: # 22034Post Tony McC

...but was he just barrowing, or shovelling and barrowing?

I normally calculate 1 man can shovel and barrow 20T in one very long and tiring day, whereas 2 lads can do 50T, if they put their backs into it. If we had a 20T drop and not more than 30m to run it in, then a gang of 4 could shift it in about 1½ hours
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Post: # 22038Post lutonlagerlout

type 1 isnt a great deal of fun to shovel dave,and the barrow run has a massive impact on duration
but like i said 2 blokes (as in diyers) 8 t no probs!!
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Tony McC wrote:...but was he just barrowing, or shovelling and barrowing?
Out the chutes off the back of two trucks. No shovelling.
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lutonlagerlout wrote:type 1 isnt a great deal of fun to shovel dave
Agree with you there - any shovelling isn't fun, esp type 1
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Post: # 22091Post TrevorL

Thanks very much for all your help - it is appreciated.
The Sterling board and the planks should be here tomorrow.
Unfortunately I'm a bit overweight, not very fit, occasionally have a bad back and two & a half years away from 60, so moving Type 1 from A to B quickly wouldn’t be a good idea. It would be all right if it was dumped where it wasn't causing an obstruction and I could do it at my leisure. I've already shovelled out 2 bulk bags of the stuff and you're right, it isn't fun! You need to have it on a hard flat surface so that you can slide the shovel underneath.
Thinking ahead to laying the slab – is fibre board the best thing to use for an expansion joint around the edge?

I bought the book “Driveways, Paths and Patios� and I’m really impressed with it. A good investment I think.

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Post: # 22096Post lutonlagerlout

Thinking ahead to laying the slab – is fibre board the best thing to use for an expansion joint around the edge?

is it an internal slab i.e. a kitchen floor or an external one i.e. garage floor or patio
all internal slabs have to have 25 mm jablite round them anyway so that account for expansion
garage floors should have flexel or similar round them
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