Diy resin drive - Where's the glue??
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Not quite as simple as chucking some garvel onto glue.
have a look at this page
http://www.pavingexpert.com/resin.htm
You will also see a list of suppliers at the top.
have a look at this page
http://www.pavingexpert.com/resin.htm
You will also see a list of suppliers at the top.
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A true story...
A builder ("Yer mate, never done it before but if I can build brick walls I can lay your stuff") thought he'd have a go and do-it-himself, phoned us and asked if it (Ronadeck Fast Grip) was a DIY product.
We told him "No" in no uncertain terms, told him to read and re-read the lengthy and detailed data sheet, but he still went ahead and bought it, about £2k worth of resin and aggregate.
He "had a go", then phoned us to say "Your f***ing stuff doesnt work, my drive looks awful, who's going to pay to put it right". Well, he did, about £6k worth of more materials and experienced labour.
Sorry, it isn't DIY - well it is if you're prepared to do it once, wrong, then have it done again, properly.
As John Ruskin said"
"It is unwise to pay too much, but it is unwise to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money; that is all. When you pay too little you sometimes lose everything. Because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing you bought it to do.
The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot. It cannot be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run and if you do that, you will have enough to pay for something better."
Have a nice day.
A builder ("Yer mate, never done it before but if I can build brick walls I can lay your stuff") thought he'd have a go and do-it-himself, phoned us and asked if it (Ronadeck Fast Grip) was a DIY product.
We told him "No" in no uncertain terms, told him to read and re-read the lengthy and detailed data sheet, but he still went ahead and bought it, about £2k worth of resin and aggregate.
He "had a go", then phoned us to say "Your f***ing stuff doesnt work, my drive looks awful, who's going to pay to put it right". Well, he did, about £6k worth of more materials and experienced labour.
Sorry, it isn't DIY - well it is if you're prepared to do it once, wrong, then have it done again, properly.
As John Ruskin said"
"It is unwise to pay too much, but it is unwise to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money; that is all. When you pay too little you sometimes lose everything. Because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing you bought it to do.
The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot. It cannot be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run and if you do that, you will have enough to pay for something better."
Have a nice day.
Simeon Osen
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Ronacrete Ltd - http://www.ronacrete.co.uk
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Not wanting to be rude, but is this thread serious?
My 2 cents - "Superglue in 1000L pallet containers should do the trick", so I'm told.
My 2 cents - "Superglue in 1000L pallet containers should do the trick", so I'm told.
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Well, thanks for all the constructive comments. Yes it was a serious post. No I didn't use technical terms although I have researched the subject and feel I have an informed knowledge of the pro's and cons as well as the H&S issues, just thought it might allow small minded males to access my query. Oh and by the way, I am the wife!
I have also further researched and still trying to decide whether the advice given by Simeon on Aug5th 2003 contradicts his rather elitist comment on my posting. Shame really because I have always found this website so helpful.
I have also further researched and still trying to decide whether the advice given by Simeon on Aug5th 2003 contradicts his rather elitist comment on my posting. Shame really because I have always found this website so helpful.
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Hi Mrs Trout - you've just poked your head into the Brew Cabin on a cold and frosty morning - through the fug of ciggy smoke & steam, you lob in a question, as if it's a joke - it could be a wind up ? - nevertheless a couple of old boys raise their heads and answer your question - you can't be precious if you're on site.
ps - Simeon - he no speak with forked tongue.
ps - Simeon - he no speak with forked tongue.
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I am aware of the complexities and the possibility of making a right pig's ear of the job but ....as it says on the ronacrete site one of the big advantages of the scattered gravel bonding system is its ease of application. If only trained experts can apply this type of surfacing why would ronacrete go to all that trouble of putting such detailed and informative info about its application etc on their website. Put this with the comment from simeon that the resin is available to the general public then it does start to look possible for a non expert (who works daily with resin applications in the boat building industry -I know its not the same as paving) to think their might be an inkling of a chance to have a level of success on a small concreted area of no great significance. Don't you lot like a challenge or is it a girl thing?
As for the water and bisto query, I personally don't think gravy would help in this situation, unless you've heard how bad my gravy is, might just be solid enough to embed gravel into. Only problem I would then have is what to do with the roast beef and yorkshire puddings. Any takers?:0
As for the water and bisto query, I personally don't think gravy would help in this situation, unless you've heard how bad my gravy is, might just be solid enough to embed gravel into. Only problem I would then have is what to do with the roast beef and yorkshire puddings. Any takers?:0
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Hi,
Well from one woman in the industry to another clearly capable of being in the industry, just wanted to let you know the answer to your question!! From my signature below you will see the website for my supply company so bit of a tout, not sure if this is allowed, but just seems to me your question still hasnt been answered... some things are made so complicated, oh and I personally as a woman have sucessfully carried out several installations..... although not single handedly, takes a few pairs of those!!! Anyway I can provide advice, if requested or products oh and training!!
Regards
PS thats not to say I dont agree with some of the comments by Simeon, it is by no means an easy or straight forward process but as long as your aware of that the decision is yours and yours alone.
Well from one woman in the industry to another clearly capable of being in the industry, just wanted to let you know the answer to your question!! From my signature below you will see the website for my supply company so bit of a tout, not sure if this is allowed, but just seems to me your question still hasnt been answered... some things are made so complicated, oh and I personally as a woman have sucessfully carried out several installations..... although not single handedly, takes a few pairs of those!!! Anyway I can provide advice, if requested or products oh and training!!
Regards
PS thats not to say I dont agree with some of the comments by Simeon, it is by no means an easy or straight forward process but as long as your aware of that the decision is yours and yours alone.
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Same here!lutonlagerlout wrote:i felt the article on your website disparaging block paving and tarmac was a little wide of the mark
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