Building a pond - Can anyone help?

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bentleydale
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Post: # 20572Post bentleydale

If building a pond above ground by using blocks would you only need to build it one block thick?
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Post: # 20573Post IanMelb

It may really depend on the volume of water.

There's probably an inverse cube rule going on there with regard to how much pressure is exerted on the blocks in relation to the volume of water that they are holding back.

If twere me (and bear in mind that I'm talking about my hobbyist/diy opinion) and I had to do it with blocks then I'd make sure they were all tied together and banded round the outside with something reasonably meaty....

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Post: # 20574Post lutonlagerlout

225mm concrete blocks would be best with some kind of liner,or even better engineering bricks,102 mm block work could fail
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Post: # 20579Post IanMelb

Would it need tying together then LLL?

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Post: # 20593Post lutonlagerlout

why tie together 2 skins when you can build one,faster and cheaper,blocks weight 40 kg s though :(
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Post: # 20599Post Ted

http://www.textileconcreteconsultants.c ... ining.html

I use this stuff when lining a pond.

You have to buy it in South Africa though.

Any polypropylene mesh will do as concrete/mortar reinforcement. Loads of medical supply companies will sell it cheaply/free.

But CemLam, the waterproof stuff, is hard to get in the UK as doctors generally don't need it. Is specialist stuff...

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Post: # 20619Post IanMelb

lutonlagerlout wrote:why tie together 2 skins when you can build one,faster and cheaper,blocks weight 40 kg s though :(
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Ah, what I meant was some kind of strapping to stop the water pushing the blocks 'out' - a bit like the metal hoops on a barrel.

I was envisiging a fair mass of water behind each block, although not knowing the volume of water involved and how many courses of blocks are planned kind of makes it difficult to work out the forces.

Most dams have wide bases, I believe that's for two reasons, stability wrt height and strength to stand up to the water pressure behind - I know it's a pond not a resevoir but as I've mentioned elsewhere, I'm very much a belt and braces bloke and I tend to over-engineer most of the things I'm unsure about. :o

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Post: # 20722Post seanandruby

As long as there's not a tsunami occurring inside it should stand up a? :laugh:
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Post: # 20724Post matt h

one mate of mine tried to put an ordinary preformed pond above ground with only timber framed support. it lasted about 3 weeks. we drained it, repaired it and built a single block wall 4 blocks high around it and then filled around the pond in sharp sand....worked a treat.. only problem was some bloody heron ate all his koi!.Some people just dont have the luck. I have the formula for calculating the stress loads of water volume somewhere, i'll dig them out
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Post: # 20725Post matt h

Ted wrote:http://www.textileconcreteconsultants.c ... ining.html

I use this stuff when lining a pond.

You have to buy it in South Africa though.

Any polypropylene mesh will do as concrete/mortar reinforcement. Loads of medical supply companies will sell it cheaply/free.

But CemLam, the waterproof stuff, is hard to get in the UK as doctors generally don't need it. Is specialist stuff...
excellent material isnt it. Now use the epdm sheet on flat roofing projects as well. Lasts far longer than traditional three layer felt
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