I'm looking to get some Romex grout and the MN Stain Stop Plus, does anyone know of a supplier near west london? I'm in Brentford..
Been searching through google and can't find anything, not even links via Romex..
Thanks for any help in advance.
Cheers
Alan
Romex supplier?
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Ian-Mitch
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Ruscrete in Southampton - http://www.home-of-landscaping.co.uk/
TonyMc gave me the link - I rang ahead to make sure they had some (they only had the clear stuff). Got 30 tins = £750 = ouch!
Hope helps - dont know if there's one nearer to you ...
TonyMc gave me the link - I rang ahead to make sure they had some (they only had the clear stuff). Got 30 tins = £750 = ouch!
Hope helps - dont know if there's one nearer to you ...
Ian
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I think I mentioned in another thread that Romex had sent me some new info. Well, included in that new info is a new email contact for clients in Britain. The contact details for Ireland (North and Republic) remain the same, and there's still no central British mainland telephone number, but there is now a proper email address that they promise will be monitored.
Obviously, to avoid the spambots, I don't want to publish it here, but there is a graphic link on the Romex page: click on it and it opens an email for you....
Obviously, to avoid the spambots, I don't want to publish it here, but there is a graphic link on the Romex page: click on it and it opens an email for you....
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Thanks again Tony, I'll mail them and see what they say, I spoke to guy at Stonecraft which is about our biggest local supplier but he hadn't heard of it, he has some stuff called ecosill, which is a ready to go kind of thing where you have to mix two parts together also someone told me Wikes do something simular a ready to brush in grout.
Any one ever used any of these in case I can't get Romex?
Any one ever used any of these in case I can't get Romex?
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Yes. Don't! I've used Pavefix and won't again. I'm doing it the old-fashioned way until Romex sort out their incredibly naive distribution agreements, or a credible competitor comes along, whichever happens first.
Incidentally, if it's a DIY job, why not pay somebody to point it properly. I found that a 15kg tub of Pavefix will cover about 6-8 sq.m at £25 a pop. A couple of good lads will do 50-75 sq.m in a day for less than the equivalent cost of polymeric sand. That stuff's only really a saving for a busy landscaper who wants to quickly get onto the next job...
Incidentally, if it's a DIY job, why not pay somebody to point it properly. I found that a 15kg tub of Pavefix will cover about 6-8 sq.m at £25 a pop. A couple of good lads will do 50-75 sq.m in a day for less than the equivalent cost of polymeric sand. That stuff's only really a saving for a busy landscaper who wants to quickly get onto the next job...
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The difficulty is finding a couple of good lads willing to take on a pointing job. Very few contractors are willing to take on the 'finishing off' of someone else's work.
I did a price comparison test last year and found that there was a slight cost advantage in using a polymeric. I'm currently doing 'further research' on projects where the polymerics are used on commercial sett and flag projects, and there is even more of a cost advantage, but that's because commercial work has to use a high strength jointing mortar and give an impeccably clean finish.
If anyone else out there wants to furnish me with info on ...
* type of paving being jointed
* area of paving being jointed
* type of mortar used (sand/cement or polymeric)
* quantity of mortar used (sand/cement or polymeric)
* time taken
...to help with this research, I'd be most obliged. It doesn't matter whether it's a patio or a city centre, it all contributes to the final results.
I did a price comparison test last year and found that there was a slight cost advantage in using a polymeric. I'm currently doing 'further research' on projects where the polymerics are used on commercial sett and flag projects, and there is even more of a cost advantage, but that's because commercial work has to use a high strength jointing mortar and give an impeccably clean finish.
If anyone else out there wants to furnish me with info on ...
* type of paving being jointed
* area of paving being jointed
* type of mortar used (sand/cement or polymeric)
* quantity of mortar used (sand/cement or polymeric)
* time taken
...to help with this research, I'd be most obliged. It doesn't matter whether it's a patio or a city centre, it all contributes to the final results.
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With Indian Sandstone I did a comparison for a project last year:
POLYMERIC:
3 hours labour @ £9/hour = £27.00
80 sq.m = 10 x 15kg polymeric @ £25.00 ea = £250.00 inc VAT
£277.00 if not VAT registered
£242.00 if VAT registered
MORTAR
1-1/2 days x 2 semi-skilled @ £70 day = £210.00
Sand & cement = £16.00 (6 x soft + 2 opc)
£226.00
This however does not factor in the opportunity cost. If I assume a profit of £4/man hour (my current rate for staff) then the 21 man hours saved by the polymeric is worth £84, thus:
Polymeric including opportunity cost = £277-£84 = £193
On this basis, the polymeric sand is marginally better value if not VAT registered but considerably better if you are.
As I am, I decided to do this job using polymeric. What happened was that I only got 6-7 sq.m per tub (half what the manufacturers claimed at 12.5 sq.m) and ended up going to TP to get another two tubs to finish the job before it could all go off. So the actual cost was:
5 man hours @ £9/hour
12 tubs @ £21.25 each EX VAT
= £300
Less opportunity cost of £76
= £224
Therefore almost the same. The finish is definitely not as good as mortar and I don't think as long lasting (just my view).
It was the last big one I did using polymeric.
The real benefit of polymeric comes with small patios I think. If you have less than 30 sq.m you can point in polymeric in under a hour, something I can do while the lads are loading the tools and cleaning up. If you look at it that way it's only costing the materials and will save a whole man day.
POLYMERIC:
3 hours labour @ £9/hour = £27.00
80 sq.m = 10 x 15kg polymeric @ £25.00 ea = £250.00 inc VAT
£277.00 if not VAT registered
£242.00 if VAT registered
MORTAR
1-1/2 days x 2 semi-skilled @ £70 day = £210.00
Sand & cement = £16.00 (6 x soft + 2 opc)
£226.00
This however does not factor in the opportunity cost. If I assume a profit of £4/man hour (my current rate for staff) then the 21 man hours saved by the polymeric is worth £84, thus:
Polymeric including opportunity cost = £277-£84 = £193
On this basis, the polymeric sand is marginally better value if not VAT registered but considerably better if you are.
As I am, I decided to do this job using polymeric. What happened was that I only got 6-7 sq.m per tub (half what the manufacturers claimed at 12.5 sq.m) and ended up going to TP to get another two tubs to finish the job before it could all go off. So the actual cost was:
5 man hours @ £9/hour
12 tubs @ £21.25 each EX VAT
= £300
Less opportunity cost of £76
= £224
Therefore almost the same. The finish is definitely not as good as mortar and I don't think as long lasting (just my view).
It was the last big one I did using polymeric.
The real benefit of polymeric comes with small patios I think. If you have less than 30 sq.m you can point in polymeric in under a hour, something I can do while the lads are loading the tools and cleaning up. If you look at it that way it's only costing the materials and will save a whole man day.