Groundwork outside the site

[Skan]

HI,
Could anyone enlighten me whether if the contractor is to work outside the site to connect to (A) water services into teh main road, across footpath, under kerb, whether a normal contractor can do that or whether a water authorities approved contractor must be used. Or perhaps there are other procedure that must be followed.(B) Gas Services - same question as above © Electrical services - breaking through and reinstating surfaces to Council approval whetehr a approved contractor must me used or any other procedures that must be followed? (d) Connection to BT- same as (A)

If there are: how much increase in cost in % from a same work done inside the site.

[Dave_L]

Have done such work recently - laid 4 x 30mm water pipes from a property (4 flats) to the pavement boundary - and no further. It is the utility contractors job ONLY to disturb the pavement and connect to the service. This would apply to all services.

[Skan]

Hi Dave L,

Thanks for the reply.

Does that mean you as a contractor for the developer can only work up to the boundary?

And anything outside the boundary for work to Gas, BT, Water & Electric have to be carry out by each approved contractor?

What I am saying is that if I want to give out this work, can a normal contractor do this work or do I have to separate the work. Anything within the boundary to the normal contractor and for each of the utilities, I have to get their own contractor to do?

OR
is it possible to check whether the normal contractor have (Maybe somesort of permit holder) to work on public area so I do not get a comp[lain later and charge for somesort of offence when the contractor had long gone.

Thanks

[Dave_L]

And anything outside the boundary for work to Gas, BT, Water & Electric have to be carry out by each approved contractor?

That's the way I see it.

[daysleeper]

If you are cutting open the public highway (including the pavement) you require a permit. In order to get a permit you have to provide certain guarantees to the council. The cost of these guarantees mean that for single jobs it is just not worth it.
Electricity company round my way charges £75 a linear METER for road openings. That is simply to dig the hole , fill it in and cover it over. What goes on in the hole is extra. They will also ONLY work with their approved contractor (how do you spell backhander). Its the same for the water company and BT (though in BT's case they are more flexible with the cost.)

As to how that compares to cost of trenching on site say ten to twenty times as much per meter.......

[Skan]

Hi daysleeper,

Thanks for the advise.
So if I got a project that have to bring these services onto the road (outside the boundary).
Is it better to get my contractor to excavate & install the ducting&pipes etc up to the boundary and get the so called approved contractor to do the rest outside the boundary?
What is a street permit?
Thanks

[lutonlagerlout]

you are not allowed to go beyond the boundary ,water ,gas.electric,telecom etc must all bring their services to the boundary
its normally best to get 1 big trench for all your services,saves time and money
cheers LLL

[bkdavies86]

With our developments we lay all the serivces apart from the water within the site. Then dependant on the service company/utilities contractor to where we connect the new services.

Some times we'll put man holes etc in place for serivces out site but that is only if we're carry out the work to the bellmouth of the development.

Best bet would be to get all the service companies out to give you quotes and then you know the extent of the works. I'd get this done sooner rather than later as it's always better to have the services in place before the scaffold close up!