Preferred jointing compounds

[Tom - Westminster Stone]

Hi,

We are looking to stock a jointing compound to sell moving forward, we currently stock NCC GFTK 840 and 850, whilst we believe the product is very good, it comes out at a price that majority of landscapers aren't prepared to pay, so i'm looking for peoples oppinions on the likes of geofix, nexus, flow point, easyjoint, weatherpoint365 etc, or any others that are of good quality and reasonable price.

Thanks in advance.

[lutonlagerlout]

weatherpoint365 has served me well for 3 years,no failures yet to report
LLL

[Tony McC]

There's at least two on your shortlist that are only fit for the skip!

GftK products are pricey, but quality costs, and I'd rate the 850 as one of the top two 2-part resin pavement jointing mortars in the world right now. I've stopped recommending *any* polymerics, including 840, because, in terms of what you get for what you pay, they don't come close to a 2-part mortar. That's not to say they are bad products, per se, just that I prefer the quality offered by 2-parts.

But, as you say, many 'landscapers' won't pay the sort of money that GftK (amongst others) ask, and so they understandably look for something cheaper. However, when I look at the number of complaints I hear about the products in this sector, the 850 is, by quite some margin, the least problematic in terms of perfomance and service life. Of the few issues of which I'm aware, the tech support that follows is exemplary. That's what the customer is paying for with the quality products, whether it's resin mortars, imported stone, concrete blocks or even tools and machinery.

I do wish more landscapers, paviors, builders and anyone else in the trade would educate themselves. There is a reason why some products cost more, and, in most cases, a huge part of that additional cost is quality raw materials, product development and technical support. Yes: in some cases you are paying for a brand name, but, within reason, I'm happier paying for quality in the knowledge that my customers will be trouble-free and my reputation unsullied, rather than risk it in order to save a tenner here and there.

And, if something was to go wrong, I like the reassuarnce that it is someone else's arse that gets kicked and pocket emptied, not mine!

[Pieman]

Any experiences with Sika PaveFix Plus?

[dig dug dan]

Been using easijoint for years without issue

[Tom - Westminster Stone]

There's at least two on your shortlist that are only fit for the skip!

GftK products are pricey, but quality costs, and I'd rate the 850 as one of the top two 2-part resin pavement jointing mortars in the world right now. I've stopped recommending *any* polymerics, including 840, because, in terms of what you get for what you pay, they don't come close to a 2-part mortar. That's not to say they are bad products, per se, just that I prefer the quality offered by 2-parts.

But, as you say, many 'landscapers' won't pay the sort of money that GftK (amongst others) ask, and so they understandably look for something cheaper. However, when I look at the number of complaints I hear about the products in this sector, the 850 is, by quite some margin, the least problematic in terms of perfomance and service life. Of the few issues of which I'm aware, the tech support that follows is exemplary. That's what the customer is paying for with the quality products, whether it's resin mortars, imported stone, concrete blocks or even tools and machinery.

I do wish more landscapers, paviors, builders and anyone else in the trade would educate themselves. There is a reason why some products cost more, and, in most cases, a huge part of that additional cost is quality raw materials, product development and technical support. Yes: in some cases you are paying for a brand name, but, within reason, I'm happier paying for quality in the knowledge that my customers will be trouble-free and my reputation unsullied, rather than risk it in order to save a tenner here and there.

And, if something was to go wrong, I like the reassuarnce that it is someone else's arse that gets kicked and pocket emptied, not mine!

Thanks for your responses, and I agree with everything you've had to say there Tony! You pay peanuts, you get monkeys as the old saying goes.
We prefer mortar pointing (especially used with our products) as this looks much more authentic and aged in appearance, but it seems more and more landscapers are switching to the compounds, perhaps we're best off continuing to trade the 850 slowly, as we wouldn't want to sell any products that aren't fit for the job.
What was the the other 2 part you said you'd rate as highly as the 850?
Cheers
Tom

[Tony McC]

What was the the other 2 part you said you'd rate as highly as the 850?

Romex D1

[Tony McC]

Any experiences with Sika PaveFix Plus?

Yes, unfortunately :~(

[Pieman]

Mine has gone black in several places already (3 months old) although it's north facing. Anything else I should know about it?

[Tony McC]

It doesn't stand up well to a power washer.

[123EzPz]

Any opinions on Rompox Easy by Romox as a suitable jointing mortar for GoldLeaf flagstone walkway? My original portland/sand mortar, which is only 10 yrs old, has broken down and in some places completely dissolved. I have power washed out large portions, but where the cement mortar is strong I'm not getting the recommended 25mm depth, sometimes it's only 3mm. The joint width varies from 5mm -75mm.
I love the ease of use of Rompox Easy and I need a solution that can handle, frost, snow, lots of rain and annual power washing. I also need a solution the completely inhibits weed growth, will last for decades and closely matches the existing mortar. Any suggestions?

[rxbren]

Bit of a hijack but what else beside the 850 is suitable for driveways

[123EzPz]

Sorry.

[r896neo]

I use larsen fjm which is similar to flowpoint i think but i imagine is cheaper. Most of the streetworks in ireland are now jointed with it.

[sy76uk]

I like this stuff http://jointit.com