Paving queries regarding work in progress

Patio flagstones (slabs), concrete flags, stone flags including yorkstone and imported flagstones.
seanandruby
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Giles

Groundworks and Equestrian specialists, prestige new builds and sports pitches. High Peak, Cheshire, South Yorkshire area.

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lutonlagerlout
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Post: # 109292Post lutonlagerlout

3k is too cheap for 48M2

the stone will cost 1k or thereabouts
skips 2/= £400

10 tonne of type 1 =250
5 tonnes of sharp around 200
25 bags of cement 125
leaves about a grand for labour and profit

I dont know what was agreed so hard to comment but 1 good thing is they seem to be laying on a full bed
what are they going to point with?
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lucysmum2011
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Post: # 109319Post lucysmum2011

Really appreciate all of your replies. The job has been completed as of yesterday and we were told not to walk on it for a day. We've now gone out and walked over it and many of the slabs move wobble and lift. We're pretty sure none of them are adhered to anything and so I guess all of the slabs are at risk. Builder is now putting pressure on to pay up. We're not sure where we stand really? Any thoughts appreciated.
we are in Cambridgeshire if anyone can recommend anyone decent.
uk mummy

Pieman
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Post: # 109320Post Pieman

I wouldn't pay a penny (recent personal experience) until the job is done properly.

lucysmum2011
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uk mummy

r896neo
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Post: # 109338Post r896neo

Pretty awful all round. Its clearly not laid properly from a technical construction point of view or a neat aesthetic point of view.

Did they put in a proper sub base? That at least might be salvageable but someone who has laid the paving this badly perhaps should not be trusted to have done the sub base right?

The slabs will be able to be re-used as the very dry mix they look to have used wont be very well stuck to them.

What was the surface before and what preparation did they do?

lucysmum2011
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Post: # 109342Post lucysmum2011

Thanks for the reply and advice.
They didn't use hardcore as a sub base but we're not builders and were under the impression they knew what they were doing. They laid the slabs directly on top of a dry mix of sand/cement on top of the soil below and used a similar mix for jointing.
Luckily we've only paid a deposit so far (£1450) but builder is pressuring us to pay the balance off. We've not yet told him that we won't be paying anymore money to him. Our next step is to try and find someone professional to make the patio good or the cost of a replacement.
Any advice or guidance on this matter would be really appreciated.
uk mummy

rxbren
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Post: # 109345Post rxbren

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but for all our patio work we have a minimum of 100mm type1 subbase. To get the job done properly will be a lift and clean slabs then dig down to put a suitable subbase in

r896neo
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Post: # 109346Post r896neo

If they didn't dig out and install a sub base of compacted hardcore then there is nothing they have done which is salvagable really and there is no element of the job that will not need re-done.

As a result its hard to justify them being paid anything aside from the cost of the slabs which can be re-used.

Check out the CAB website for details of your legal rights and dont pay them anything else at this point.

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