3.5 ton tippers - Whats so hard about towinf 3.5ton?

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Post: # 108195Post John B

Hi, i'm newly registered, but i've visited as a guest a few times over the years.

My question is, transits can't tow 3.5ton, neither can many others, even 4x4s and the bigger 4 or 5 ton sprinters. What is so hard about towing 3.5 ton that they dont all do it?

As far as i'm aware only Landrovers, isuzu, canter, and iveco can.

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Post: # 108198Post GB_Groundworks

On highway you mean, it's only the law on private propert they can my 2.7 ton rated Navara has had over 5 tons of trailer on the back in a field

The Ford F-250 in USA can tow 19,000 lbs conventionally or 33000 on goose neck 5th wheel that like 8 ton or 16 ton on electric brakes lot easier to move kit around in USA
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Post: # 108199Post seanandruby

I think it has to do with the vehicle nose weight.
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Post: # 108203Post lutonlagerlout

a lot of what we call pick ups in the states Giles a re like 5 tonne with 7 litre engines
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Post: # 108210Post dig dug dan

John B wrote:Hi, i'm newly registered, but i've visited as a guest a few times over the years.

My question is, transits can't tow 3.5ton, neither can many others, even 4x4s and the bigger 4 or 5 ton sprinters. What is so hard about towing 3.5 ton that they dont all do it?

As far as i'm aware only Landrovers, isuzu, canter, and iveco can.
The new navaras and cabstars can tow 3.5tonnes. But remember, it doesnt mean you can load a trailer up with 3.5tonnes and then tow it, you have to include the weight of the trailer.
lets also not forget tacho rules!
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Post: # 108211Post GB_Groundworks

taco only applies if driving is the main part of your job if you are working within 100km carrying work tools you don't need a tacho on sub 12 ton

yeah i know tony f250 is 440 hp :) the big dually are awesome but the size of our 7.5 tonners

i follow a few USA earthmover on instagram and twitter they can tow a 5 ton mini and a 4 ton skid steer on a big tailer behind a pickup :)

I've seen transits tippers with 3 ton diggers on trailers or theres that photo of a transit with a jcb 803 on the back
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Post: # 108212Post dig dug dan

John B wrote:Hi, i'm newly registered, but i've visited as a guest a few times over the years.

My question is, transits can't tow 3.5ton, neither can many others, even 4x4s and the bigger 4 or 5 ton sprinters. What is so hard about towing 3.5 ton that they dont all do it?

As far as i'm aware only Landrovers, isuzu, canter, and iveco can.
The new navaras and cabstars can tow 3.5tonnes. But remember, it doesnt mean you can load a trailer up with 3.5tonnes and then tow it, you have to include the weight of the trailer.
lets also not forget tacho rules!
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Post: # 108213Post dig dug dan

GB_Groundworks wrote:taco only applies if driving is the main part of your job if you are working within 100km carrying work tools you don't need a tacho on sub 12 ton

yeah i know tony f250 is 440 hp :) the big dually are awesome but the size of our 7.5 tonners

i follow a few USA earthmover on instagram and twitter they can tow a 5 ton mini and a 4 ton skid steer on a big tailer behind a pickup :)

I've seen transits tippers with 3 ton diggers on trailers or theres that photo of a transit with a jcb 803 on the back
Almost right. If you hire out the equipment you are towing, you need one.
I got done for it on the m11. Now I put it on the truck to get round it
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Post: # 108215Post John B

I get what you're saying about vehicles being capable of actually towing 3.5 ton for example in a field. But why are they plated, if thats the correct term, at less than what they can comfortably cope with. I tow a 2.5 ton digger on an ifor plant trailer with a 110 landy. I used to tow it with a 190 transit untill i found out it was illegal, but i never had a practical problem doing it. And since the fine increases incrementally the more over weight you are found to be, it seems a bit daft.

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Post: # 108216Post dig dug dan

I agree. They need to relax the rules on o licences too up to 7.5 tonnes as it really restricts things
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Post: # 108217Post msh paving

i ran my 7.5t for 3 years with no operators licence from 97, never got pulled MSH :D
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msh paving wrote:i ran my 7.5t for 3 years with no operators licence from 97, never got pulled MSH :D
If it were me, I would have been caught within a week!
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in them days VOSA was not like they are now, MSH :)
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Post: # 108222Post lutonlagerlout

all of this legislation saves lives
simple as that
PITA yes but safe as well
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dig dug dan wrote:
GB_Groundworks wrote:taco only applies if driving is the main part of your job if you are working within 100km carrying work tools you don't need a tacho on sub 12 ton

yeah i know tony f250 is 440 hp :) the big dually are awesome but the size of our 7.5 tonners

i follow a few USA earthmover on instagram and twitter they can tow a 5 ton mini and a 4 ton skid steer on a big tailer behind a pickup :)

I've seen transits tippers with 3 ton diggers on trailers or theres that photo of a transit with a jcb 803 on the back

Almost right. If you hire out the equipment you are towing, you need one.
I got done for it on the m11. Now I put it on the truck to get round it
Exactly, you were only delivering the tool so you were just driving!


If you carry your own machine then use it you don't need one per other criteria
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