Ok so my workshop base isnt reinforced in any way

[seanandruby]

I find it repulsive to, it's up there with picking your nose and scrathing your arse in public. Hate seeing a beautiful woman dolled up witha fag hanging out of her gob, classless.

[DNgroundworks]

I struggle with the smoking, i am going to make a determined effort soon.....i have read Allen Carr's book, it is very good. I quit for around 6 months after reading that.

That sounds stupid, as I'm back smoking but lots of folk have quit on the back of it.

Not trained in a while, but i am guilty of playing around with gear, 14st, 6ft3" and around 10/12% body fat was the best i got. All a complete waste of time may i add, no way the body can maintain that post cycle. Never again!

Does/has anybody struggled with the drink on here? Up until black eye friday just gone i hadn't had a single mouthful of beer since last christmas!! And before that was last summer. Just not my thing tbh.

[Andy Meechan]

Its a strange thing but being addicted to cigarettes compared to alcohol seems to hold a different social perception. For what reason?

Good luck to anyone with addiction problems, I hope you overcome your demons.

Tony Adams autobiography is a good read BTW.

[rxbren]

Very rare I drink if its an occasion will have a few although I have worked (only one day) with a lad who first thing would get 4 cans of Stella drink them on the way to work, another four on way home well I say home I mean pub. That cycle apparently continued everyday a friend I do work with sometimes has an old boy work with him but he is always hanging out of his ass barely able to stand. Its common in geoundworks alot stop off a pub on way home have 4-5 then go home have a few more.
I just cleared my fridge out before Xmas had cans in the rarely opened bottom draw that went out of date in December 2012

[mickg]

in the late 80's I was training 4 - 5 times a week but that's one thing I never did Dan, never ever took anything and after 18 months of continuous hard training 2 -3 hours every evening after a hard days graft I started to cut up and get muscle on muscle, I never trained to bulk up or look like Billy big arms just to build more stamina and strength so I could work more efficiently

nothing worse than standing there looking like you still have a roll of carpet under each arm eh

as in all gyms you get the guys on roids and the 20 inch bicep and I encountered a few where I trained but pound for pound I would lift more each evening than their 2-3 reps having 300 kg on the bar and spend more time lifting the weights on and off the bar and strutting about posing in the mirrors

I had stopped smoking at the time, managed 7 years no smoking and very little alcohol

[Forestboy1978]

I've never used steroids. I use pre workout drinks though to wake me up and get me started faster. Not that that's even the same ball park.

Currently summoning the motivation to go and workout. Deadlift day. I don't wanna go mmmwhaa.....lol

[lutonlagerlout]

steroids are a generation thing now
they are cheap and freely available
loads of young fellas I know between 20-30 use them just thinking that it is a good look
IME its not a look women go for
and I question the validity of the situation where a man sticks a prick into your arse cheek every day for 3 weeks
like Mick its just a thing that can help you sleep better and be more efficient at work
cheers LLL

[seanandruby]

steroids
and I question the validity of the situation where a man sticks a prick into your arse cheek.

Hopefully no near miss there :;): :O

[Forestboy1978]

I don't disagree with the use of steroids, they're just not for me. However when I'm older and if I needed testosterone replacement that would be a different matter.

I've got a few mates who use them and it's fine by me. They do still have to work very hard and in fact they can work far harder than I can and for longer so they do. Personally speaking my balls come before my vanity. Though I'd love another 10lb lean mass, I'll probably get it eventually it'll just take me another 2 or 3 years.

[lutonlagerlout]

everyone I know who has used them looks like shit within 3 months of coming off them be it prison or abstinence for other reasons
the lads i know have 4 squares marked on each cheek with a sharpie so they never get injected into the same spot more than once a week
FB they work harder because they need far less recovery time
thats how roids work
anyway not for me ,but if others trust chinese and indian back street chemists good for them
:;):
LLL

[DNgroundworks]

I dunno, i never looked liked what you are talking about, i didn't use any nandralones (deca) or any steroid that induced large mass gains, i just used a long estered test and peptides.

I did it purely for the strength and endurance benefits, not for the swollen look, that is ridiculous.

Plus i never injected my arse cheek, very awkward to do to yourself, chest or quad.

I thoroughly enjoyed every minute i was on, it feels fantastic, but what goes up must come down, natural for me for now on.

I used pharma grade gear and got it tested by a diagnostics company before use

The idea that your balls shrink is a fallacy, maybe slightly but not enough to notice, the real issues are prostate damage, hormonal imbalance (the major one IMO) which dependant on what you have used can take years for homeostasis to return. Again with the roid rage, if your a nob before gear you'll be a nob during gear, if like me your a quiet sort then that will remain, it will just amplify you natural state, just like alcohol,drugs etc. They all alter the same hormones one way or another.

[seanandruby]

Can't for the life of me see why you guys would need drugs to ehance your looks, very vain to say the least. What is wrong with good old sensible eatng, drinking and regular exercise ???
A lot of the E U guys bulk up, most look a complete mess walking around wearing just a granny basher.
Hard work, little booze, no fags and a good diet has kept me fit for years, at 62 i run 6 miles no probs, and work flat out when needed, cycle etc: you just need to focus.

[Forestboy1978]

The only thing that pisses me off about steroid users are the ones who maintain they have achieved what they've achieved without roids. Especially the ones on youtube who sell supplements.

The other things equally pisses me off is when some emo little faggot who's never done a days work in his life accuses you of being on steroids cos you've trained hard for several years and look half decent. Both equally annoying.

I hate the steroid look. Those guys who are all shredded up with single digit body fat look ridiculous and inhuman IMO. I've spoken to woman on this subject too and they seem to be of same mind.

The other thing, of course IMO again, is that if you can't run 5 mile at a reasonable pace without keeling over, or can't pull up your own body weight >10 times or press up >40 "proper" pressups then you're sub functional. A lot, not all, of those hulking guys can't walk a flight of stairs without significant suffering. They'd die if you gave them a mattock at 8 am and said that's you for the day. Literally probably die, so what's the point....

[lutonlagerlout]

no ambiguity there FB
LLL

BTW a faggot is a delicious food from wales and the west midlands

we try not use use yank slang on pavingexpert.CO.UK

streak of piss would be more suitable for this family forum

LLL :;):

[Forestboy1978]

Sorry:(

For the record, I have nothing against homosexuals. People are born the way they are, they don't choose, so I don't judge, just so damn happy that I like the female form myself. Unlike people who just choose to be total tossers. That's entirely different of course.

And faggots are great. I love brains faggots but you can't beat butchers faggots. In fact, thanks for reminding me. I'm gonna buy some tomorrow. And those type of faggots are ambiguous... lips, t***s and as***les in em lol

^ couldn't help myself...