New patio - Conflicting advice

Patio flagstones (slabs), concrete flags, stone flags including yorkstone and imported flagstones.
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rob0rob
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Post: # 104441Post rob0rob

Hello Forum,
Having read through a number of threads I would like to start by saying it is a great read with some excellent knowledge and advice. I am hoping that this will continue, but, please be gentle as I am new to paving.

:D

I have ripped up my old decking with all the eagerness and enthusiasm you can imagine. Now I would like to redo the patio with 'flags'. My plan WAS:

Excavate the area to allow for the following:
100mm hardcore / MOT1
Whack it down.
25-30mm of sharp sand and cement screed. 4 to1 mix. Dry Mix
whack it down
re-screed with same mix.
slightly rough the surface with rake.
lay slabs
wet them
allow to dry
brush in 3 to 1 mix, building sand and cement for pointing.
Wet it,
Use tool to smooth joints.
Open beer.

All the above seemed to be the general guide, although I could easily have mis-understood along the way.

The area is 60m2 and I am allowing a 1:70 fall with drainage channel connecting to mains. All surrounded by concrete footings with walls / edging.
The Patio will be 100mm below DPC but I am using a drainage channel along the length of house to compensate this.

I though this all seemed ok?
What are your thoughts?

Just to complicate matters, I am using Marshalls Fairstone Granite Eclipe paving, who say it has to be laid on a wet mix which I didn't fancy doing myself on such a large area.

I have had 2 companies round to price, one wanted £4k and the other said in the region of £10K but hasn't come back to me.


I think £4k is far to cheap, even though he wasn't pricing Marshalls it still didn't sound right.



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Post: # 104444Post lutonlagerlout

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25-30mm of sharp sand and cement screed. 4 to1 mix. Dry Mix
whack it down
re-screed with same mix.
slightly rough the surface with rake.
lay slabs
wet them
allow to dry
brush in 3 to 1 mix, building sand and cement for pointing.
Wet it,
Use tool to smooth joints.
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complete and utter failure if you do it that way
LLL
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seanandruby
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Post: # 104445Post seanandruby

The beer is a good idea, drink a few whilst you read through the index and a few old posts :;):
sean

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Post: # 104520Post London Stone Paving

An EPIC fail on granite which in my experience needs a moist mix to bond to the bedding layer.

Although you have a big area to lay as long as you take your time you should not be afraid of going for a wetter mix. As long as your string lines are accurately set up and you have a long level then as long as you take your time you should have no worries

Cheers
Steve

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