Transverse stretcher bond - Avoiding small cuts

Patio flagstones (slabs), concrete flags, stone flags including yorkstone and imported flagstones.
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Aalindo
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Post: # 100570Post Aalindo

I have to pave an area 1920mm (left to right) by 2075mm (top to bottom). The size is fixed and cannot be altered.

I have chosen slabs that are 600x400mm that i want to lay in a simple transverse stretched bond.

600mm does not go into 1920mm without leaving small slips. Is there a trick to minimise cutting/wastage/slips?

I have tried various paving planners, but all use a fixed selection of their own sizes, none of which are 600x400!

I know i can offset the bond, but am struggling to crack the best combination/ratio using a pen and a piece of paper.

For ease of maths, i'm working on 10mm joints.

Can anyone with a bit more knowledge, think of a workable solution? It's taken an age to get this far and i cant stand the idea of having to chose a different stone!
Thanks for the help.

seanandruby
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Post: # 100573Post seanandruby

Either put an edging round, or instead of a small slip, cut to pavings slabs equal sizes to make a larger edging piece.
sean

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Post: # 100576Post lutonlagerlout

depending on various things you could try 1/3rd bond to kep the cuts right


so have

200-600-600- =1430 leaves a 470 cut allowing for 10mm joints

then the next course start with the

470-600-600-200

smallest cut will go against the front door

cheers LLL

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Aalindo
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Post: # 100583Post Aalindo

Thanks for the replies, it's appreciated.

One final thing, when paving against a wall, do you butt it up against it, or allow room for a joint. This matters in my case, because if i use 3 flags, i either need to allow space for 2 joint widths or 4.

If joints are required, does it cause issues having a single joint running the length of the wall? If so, how do i mitigate the issues?
Thanks for the help.

Aalindo
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Post: # 100584Post Aalindo

Another final thing...!

LLL, what are the vents for in your wall? I'm assuming it must be hollow, but i am looking at doing something similar with our patio, but was just going to backfill the brickwork. Has it been done with beam and block as part of an extension or something?

I need to get back to work...i obviously have too much time on my hands!
Thanks for the help.

seanandruby
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Post: # 100585Post seanandruby

Against the wall.
Vents are what they say on the tin, short for ventilation .
You are below the 'vents' i hope? Why would you want to put ahir vents in a patio?
sean

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Post: # 100587Post lutonlagerlout

the vents on that patio are a continuation of the vents in the existing house ventilating the wooden floor

aalindo never butt joint

10mm joint all around

LLL
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Aalindo
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Post: # 100590Post Aalindo

Thanks guys.

Seanandruby, "why would you put vents in a patio" was exactly what i was thinking when i saw them. When i said i was doing something similar, i meant the raised patio itself, not the vents.

And yes, my raised patio will project out from the house from a level 1 or 2 courses below the vents.
Thanks for the help.

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